Jail bait or not

[colockumelk]

I'm thinking just stop hunting in that unit for a year.   If I remember correctly that would also stop tribal hunting there for a year, becasue isn't it written in the articles that if hunting has to be shut down because of management then it also stops that portion.   Not trying to turn this into another tribal thread god forbid.    I think for management sakes we could go a year.   Course more feed for the wolves, but thats another......

Its not written in the Articles it is part of the Boldt Decision.  The Boldt Decision left the WDFW the right to manage tribal harvest for managment purposes.  So even though we have antler restrictions for "managment purposes" they still can't manage tribal harvest since we have an open season.  In legal speak a spike and a 6x6 bull is the same.  A bull is a bull.  So while the Yakamas and Muckleshoots easily get their 50% when it comes to branch bulls.  Legally speaking if you add in all the spikes that are taken during the general season the Tribes don't get their 50%.   

If the WDFW did in fact close a GMU to hunting for managment and conservation then they could in fact keep the Tribes from hunting in that GMU.  Of course the tribes would fight this in court but it would take years like everything else in our legal system.  If they go to permit only and give out say 10 permits for branch bulls then the tribes would also get 10 permits for branch bulls. 

I am not a fan or support closing it down for a year.  Because after a couple years you would be back to square 1.  It should go to permit only until they (WDFW, and Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation) can fix and correct the main reasons why there is such a small spike recruitment.  Because until the main issue is fixed then you're either treading water or every three yeaers you'll be back to square one.  And for those who want to know the main issue is its too open with too many roads. 

[boneaddict]

Thanks for explaining that Clock.

[colockumelk]

Thanks for explaining that Clock.

No problem Bone.  At least someone appreciates my "nerdiness"   

[PlateauNDN]

He would have to walk if it were left to me 

I would pass but some slob will smoke him at 300yds and then leave lay when he walks up to him.

Naw, your native buddies would throw him in the truck with the rest of their pile. 

"Don't hate the players hate the game."

   You bet!  I'm not picky when it comes to meat.  He would definitely go on top of the pile of other animals I slaughtered while road hunting.

With the .50 cal mounted on the bed of the truck & all the keys to all the gates and all the locators to the collared elk and all the locators to the planted wolves as not to mess up the program and black helicopters as well right? Did I miss anything?

Was that you in the SUV next to me cruising through town showing off my new ride?  

[Dan-o]

Gotta admit I'd have dumped it at 300 yards.   I don't know how you don't see that in your binocs and conclude it's a spike at any reasonable range.

I'd take it home and take my chances, because I wouldn't waste it....

[hunterofelk]

Great genetics in that herd.

[got2hunt]

YA my dad tagged a elk on the clockum last year that had a sticker point at the bottom or base of the horn. They shot it and left it lay. Called the game department and warn came out and we told the story , any how the officer said that the point is below the ear ( Tip of ear folded up against the horn) and said it was legal. That on would walk but their is a.... hole that would shoot it and let it lay.

[colockumelk]

People for sure need to ne a lot more sure of tje Target they are shooting at. That is for certain. Too many guys that don't care and just shoot.

But.... There is a point when it gets so restrictive that it starts to become almost like entrapment. The WDFW never should have put people in this situation to begin with.

[colockumelk]

Hey bone sorry I just realized I hijacked your thread.

[groundhog]

Clock,
I gotta ask. Do you really believe the WDFW numbers regarding the bull to cow ratio in the Colockum?? Three bulls per hundred cows??? Come on.  You can go anywhere in the unit in September and you will find big herd bulls with a harem of ten to forty cows and at least four to six satelite bulls.
 The only way to come up with three bulls per hundred cows is to fly the cow herd in April and count the spikes that are still hanging with the cows. Never mind the bachelor groups of big bulls.  It is the classic example of "Garbage in garbage out".

[pianoman9701]

Bone, if you don't mind me asking, what camera and lens were you using to take this picture?

[Wenatcheejay]

Bone, if you don't mind me asking, what camera and lens were you using to take this picture?

  The only appropriate question in this thread 

[Pathfinder101]

...I can't beleive no one has brought up Bfoot on this thread yet.... what's wrong with you guys...?

[Wenatcheejay]

Dang! Missed that one, sorry man, Mia Culpa.

[GoldTip]

Yep, that one would get you a court date for sure when you get checked.