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Re: New archery season proposal?????
« Reply #90 on: February 15, 2012, 06:06:46 PM »
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unconditional archery hunters, those of us who would prefer to not hunt at all than to not hunt with a bow.
While I might hunt with any weapon rather than not hunt at all, I have been Archery ONLY since 1987, and Traditional ONLY since 1992...
ALL SEASONS, ALL GAME, turkey, bear, dear, elk, grouse, rabbit, etc...
I just hear constant whining, it does not matter what changes they make, someone still whines...
the change of season, from October to September,  was due to whining, the change to not open on Labor Day weekend, was due to whining, seems like they have tried to accommodate us (Archers), but no matter what they do, there is still whining...
No matter what, they will never let us hunt the last week of September, forget it, it is not going to happen.
As has been stated here plenty, if you attend meetings, send letters, join clubs, make your voice heard, then you have every right to complain, yet go to a meeting, and you will see far more modern firearm and Muzzle-loader  hunters than Archery,  :dunno:
I wish that the season was longer, yet, I see few hunters during the week, and half as many during second week as first, the only complaint I see that the WDFW might take serious is to utilize weekends, yet they cannot do that and still keep us out of the last week of September, AGAIN, SOMETHING THEY WILL NEVER LET US HAVE !
No matter what the WDFW will not allow Archery to be after the 23rd of September.
So, you can complain all you want, it will fall on deaf ears.
Make the best of the seasons they do offer, and play the cards you are dealt, hunt other states if you want the last weekend, because unless we get an Archery hunter to become governor, we are the "Red-Headed Stepchild" of a "Blond Game Department"
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Re: New archery season proposal?????
« Reply #91 on: February 15, 2012, 06:13:59 PM »
Thats a awesome statement <redheaded stepchild to the blonde game dept> :chuckle:
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Re: New archery season proposal?????
« Reply #92 on: February 15, 2012, 08:25:49 PM »
Come on now, complaining is half the fun.
In all seriousness, I don't care what changes are made, as long as the goal is to improve the overall hunting in this state.  Let's at least have good reasons for making changes, and please, don't send out bogus surveys with generic questions and then use our answers to justify whatever agenda you wanted in the first place. 

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Re: New archery season proposal?????
« Reply #93 on: February 17, 2012, 08:15:34 AM »
Yes, I'm pretty sure they're not trying accomodate us archers by making the season earlier and earlier!  If they are I'd like to find the guy that wrote a letter and asked them to please make our season earlier!  So I can kick him in the nuts!

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Re: New archery season proposal?????
« Reply #94 on: February 17, 2012, 08:36:49 AM »
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unconditional archery hunters, those of us who would prefer to not hunt at all than to not hunt with a bow.
While I might hunt with any weapon rather than not hunt at all, I have been Archery ONLY since 1987, and Traditional ONLY since 1992...
ALL SEASONS, ALL GAME, turkey, bear, dear, elk, grouse, rabbit, etc...
I just hear constant whining, it does not matter what changes they make, someone still whines...
the change of season, from October to September,  was due to whining, the change to not open on Labor Day weekend, was due to whining, seems like they have tried to accommodate us (Archers), but no matter what they do, there is still whining...
No matter what, they will never let us hunt the last week of September, forget it, it is not going to happen.
As has been stated here plenty, if you attend meetings, send letters, join clubs, make your voice heard, then you have every right to complain, yet go to a meeting, and you will see far more modern firearm and Muzzle-loader  hunters than Archery,  :dunno:
I wish that the season was longer, yet, I see few hunters during the week, and half as many during second week as first, the only complaint I see that the WDFW might take serious is to utilize weekends, yet they cannot do that and still keep us out of the last week of September, AGAIN, SOMETHING THEY WILL NEVER LET US HAVE !
No matter what the WDFW will not allow Archery to be after the 23rd of September.
So, you can complain all you want, it will fall on deaf ears.
Make the best of the seasons they do offer, and play the cards you are dealt, hunt other states if you want the last weekend, because unless we get an Archery hunter to become governor, we are the "Red-Headed Stepchild" of a "Blond Game Department"

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Re: New archery season proposal?????
« Reply #95 on: February 17, 2012, 09:21:01 AM »
I feel there is a vast difference between whining and trying to make our seasons better and increase our opportunity.  If we sit back and allow the Department to set our seasons, dates and what GMU's we have... without telling them what we want as a user group then they will continue to take from us to give to those user groups that are proactive.  Dang there went my 2 cents...
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Re: New archery season proposal?????
« Reply #96 on: February 17, 2012, 09:26:15 AM »
There should be no rut hunts at all for deer or elk.   :twocents: :peep:

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Re: New archery season proposal?????
« Reply #97 on: February 17, 2012, 10:31:55 AM »
The problem will remain the same regardless of the whining or "fairness" our state tries to uphold. You see, Washington hunters will never get their moneys worth as long as the state relys on hunter reports and proposed mortality rates. The seasons should be set on hard evidence from biologists coinciding with a weapons success rates. But biologists and REAL studies cost money, money the state won't get back. The same areas get the same amount of attention every year from the state.
I was headed to the NE a few years back and decided to call the Colville gamies and ask them about the recent winter kill on whitetail as id heard it was bad. He said "yeah the local herd seems to be down a little" I said oh, you don't have any study or biology results yet? " Study"? He asked. " We haven't had a study out here since the late 70's".

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Re: New archery season proposal?????
« Reply #98 on: February 17, 2012, 11:53:35 AM »
Ok i dont get it why the modern and the muzzy hunters get to draw for cows in the CLOCKUM this year but not  ARCHERY. I e-mailed and asked the DFW lastnight??? That gets me  :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:

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Re: New archery season proposal?????
« Reply #99 on: February 17, 2012, 12:06:40 PM »
Ok i dont get it why the modern and the muzzy hunters get to draw for cows in the CLOCKUM this year but not  ARCHERY. I e-mailed and asked the DFW lastnight??? That gets me  :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:

They gave us a.late season cow hunt in there...

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Re: New archery season proposal?????
« Reply #100 on: February 17, 2012, 04:58:41 PM »
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But biologists and REAL studies cost money, money the state won't get back. The same areas get the same amount of attention every year from the state.
I was headed to the NE a few years back and decided to call the Colville gamies and ask them about the recent winter kill on whitetail as id heard it was bad. He said "yeah the local herd seems to be down a little" I said oh, you don't have any study or biology results yet? " Study"? He asked. " We haven't had a study out here since the late 70's".
In several conversations with a few different biologist employed by the WDFW, I was informed that they were not "game Biologists, but "forest Practices" biologists, this was region 5 and 6, contact numbers from the WDFW website, they monitor Trees, and agricultural interests,  on primarily PRIVATE timber company land...   :bash:
Why are they on the State payroll ?, monetary compensation from PRIVATE timber companies !!!
The WDFW is counting budget dollars, not game numbers..  :twocents:
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Re: New archery season proposal?????
« Reply #101 on: February 18, 2012, 08:27:58 AM »
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But biologists and REAL studies cost money, money the state won't get back. The same areas get the same amount of attention every year from the state.
I was headed to the NE a few years back and decided to call the Colville gamies and ask them about the recent winter kill on whitetail as id heard it was bad. He said "yeah the local herd seems to be down a little" I said oh, you don't have any study or biology results yet? " Study"? He asked. " We haven't had a study out here since the late 70's".
In several conversations with a few different biologist employed by the WDFW, I was informed that they were not "game Biologists, but "forest Practices" biologists, this was region 5 and 6, contact numbers from the WDFW website, they monitor Trees, and agricultural interests,  on primarily PRIVATE timber company land...   :bash:
Why are they on the State payroll ?, monetary compensation from PRIVATE timber companies !!!
The WDFW is counting budget dollars, not game numbers..  :twocents:

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Re: New archery season proposal?????
« Reply #102 on: February 19, 2012, 11:47:30 AM »
Thanks guess i needed to lok into it a little deeper.  :tup:

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Re: New archery season proposal?????
« Reply #103 on: February 19, 2012, 10:47:35 PM »
almost every western state allows a 30 day elk archery season, but us  :chuckle:

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Re: New archery season proposal?????
« Reply #104 on: February 19, 2012, 11:06:10 PM »
almost every western state allows a 30 day elk archery season, but us  :chuckle:

We do get pretty close to 30 days when you add up the early and late seasons.

 


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