sierra bullets on elk?

[hillbilli]

the prohunter bullets mentioned are a tougher bullet than the gamekings. The gamekings are a fine deer bullet, and on (elk) a straight ribshot, with no shoulder bone involvement, and at longer ranges where impact velocities arent as high, it would probably be fine.. but you dont always get to choose your opportunities.. there are better choices, but that bullet will probably do the job, just wouldnt be my first choice..

[BOWHUNTER45]

I love sierra bullets for target shooting  but thats all ... AWESOME GROUP SHOOTERS 

[Bigshooter]

You DON'T have to shoot a premium bullets to kill an elk.  More elk have been killed by soft lead core bullets than barnes unleaded bullets.

[bobcat]

You DON'T have to shoot a premium bullets to kill an elk.  More elk have been killed by soft lead core bullets than barnes unleaded bullets.

No, of course you don't, but why limit yourself to only taking perfect broadside shots?

[spookgus]

The 180 grain .308 Gamekings have a tapered jacket and are designed for magnum velocities. The 165s have a standard jacket.

[Bigshooter]

You DON'T have to shoot a premium bullets to kill an elk.  More elk have been killed by soft lead core bullets than barnes unleaded bullets.

No, of course you don't, but why limit yourself to only taking perfect broadside shots?

You don't need to wait for a broadside shot.  I have seen plenty of soft lead bullets go through the shoulders of elk.  Companies like barnes just want you to believe that lead won't go through and elks shoulder so they can get people to over pay for there bullets.

[bobcat]

You DON'T have to shoot a premium bullets to kill an elk.  More elk have been killed by soft lead core bullets than barnes unleaded bullets.

No, of course you don't, but why limit yourself to only taking perfect broadside shots?

You don't need to wait for a broadside shot.  I have seen plenty of soft lead bullets go through the shoulders of elk.  Companies like barnes just want you to believe that lead won't go through and elks shoulder so they can get people to over pay for there bullets.

I like to know that I can take a "Texas heart shot" if I have to, and I would only try that with a Barnes, or similar, bullet. Also it's nice to have a bullet that doesn't leave lead shrapnel all through the meat, if you do hit it in the shoulder.

[coachcw]

the 180 accubonds are a great choice or 165 barnes x . I would say the accubond inside of 250 yards is a better choice however .

[high country]

the best thing the internet did for us was make all the old standbys obsolete. I wish I could count the critters that I have eaten that died from a single speer hot cor launched from my non magnum wearing a simple 3-9 scope

[Bigshooter]

You DON'T have to shoot a premium bullets to kill an elk.  More elk have been killed by soft lead core bullets than barnes unleaded bullets.

No, of course you don't, but why limit yourself to only taking perfect broadside shots?

You don't need to wait for a broadside shot.  I have seen plenty of soft lead bullets go through the shoulders of elk.  Companies like barnes just want you to believe that lead won't go through and elks shoulder so they can get people to over pay for there bullets.

I like to know that I can take a "Texas heart shot" if I have to, and I would only try that with a Barnes, or similar, bullet. Also it's nice to have a bullet that doesn't leave lead shrapnel all through the meat, if you do hit it in the shoulder.

Why would you take a texas heart shot with only a barnes bullet?  There are plenty of lead bullets that you can do that with.  And as far a lead "shrapnel all through the meat".  Don't eat the wound channel. 

[Bigshooter]

the best thing the internet did for us was make all the old standbys obsolete. I wish I could count the critters that I have eaten that died from a single speer hot cor launched from my non magnum wearing a simple 3-9 scope

That's crazy talk.   Speer hot cors have a lead cor.  They can't kill anything.  They won't break bone.  And unless you make a perfect shot between the ribs they won't exit an elk.

[Bob33]

You DON'T have to shoot a premium bullets to kill an elk.  More elk have been killed by soft lead core bullets than barnes unleaded bullets.

No, of course you don't, but why limit yourself to only taking perfect broadside shots?

You don't need to wait for a broadside shot.  I have seen plenty of soft lead bullets go through the shoulders of elk.  Companies like barnes just want you to believe that lead won't go through and elks shoulder so they can get people to over pay for there bullets.

I like to know that I can take a "Texas heart shot" if I have to, and I would only try that with a Barnes, or similar, bullet. Also it's nice to have a bullet that doesn't leave lead shrapnel all through the meat, if you do hit it in the shoulder.

I never used to pay much attention to that until I butchered an elk shot with a Nosler Partition two years ago. There was lead shrapnel in more places than you would imagine.  I don't think it's a health risk, but it sort of made me a believer in monolithic bullets.  To be honest, I think bullets that shed weight may kill a bit quicker, but I still prefer very high weight retaining bullets.

[Bigshooter]

You DON'T have to shoot a premium bullets to kill an elk.  More elk have been killed by soft lead core bullets than barnes unleaded bullets.

No, of course you don't, but why limit yourself to only taking perfect broadside shots?

You don't need to wait for a broadside shot.  I have seen plenty of soft lead bullets go through the shoulders of elk.  Companies like barnes just want you to believe that lead won't go through and elks shoulder so they can get people to over pay for there bullets.

I like to know that I can take a "Texas heart shot" if I have to, and I would only try that with a Barnes, or similar, bullet. Also it's nice to have a bullet that doesn't leave lead shrapnel all through the meat, if you do hit it in the shoulder.

I never used to pay much attention to that until I butchered an elk shot with a Nosler Partition two years ago. There was lead shrapnel in more places than you would imagine.  I don't think it's a health risk, but it sort of made me a believer in monolithic bullets.  To be honest, I think bullets that shed weight may kill a bit quicker, but I still prefer very high weight retaining bullets.

And that's your preference.  And I'm fine with that.  But to say that with lead bullets you have to make "perfect" shots is laughable at best.  (and i'm not saying that you said that bob)

[bobcat]

And that's your preference.  And I'm fine with that.  But to say that with lead bullets you have to make "perfect" shots is laughable at best.  (and i'm not saying that you said that bob)

Well hey, use what you like. I just like the extra "insurance" of a premium bullet. (I'm not sure what the downside might be, other than cost?)

This thread is in reference to a 300 WSM. If we were talking more in the range of a 30-30 to a 308 Winchester, then a tough bullet wouldn't be so critical. It's when you get into the higher velocity cartridges that it matters more.

[Bob33]

"And that's your preference.  And I'm fine with that.  But to say that with lead bullets you have to make "perfect" shots is laughable at best.  (and i'm not saying that you said that bob)"

Agreed on all counts.  Bullets and calibers make for endless discussion, but it really they're both very small parts of success.  I always get a laugh out of the posts that say "This blah blah blah caliber killed my elk "DRT" but if you use that other caliber they run off, every time!!!!"  When that happens, those without manners do the right thing and reply accordingly: