points

[michael0016]

how do you check how many special drawing points you have?

[Bob33]

Go here: https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/wa/specialhuntlookup

[benhuntin]

I never seem to have as many points as I remember

[michael0016]

so is it point used the number of points you have?

[doyourtime89]

When you look up your points is says "points used" so if you weren't drawn for a tag that year will you have one more then what it shows for this year.  For example it said I used 10 points for my moose tag and I didn't get drawn.  So will I have 11 points for this yeas draw?

[billythekidrock]

Michael, Yes, before this years application.

Doyourtime, if you had ten last year you will only have eleven after you apply this year.

[huntnfmly]

Doyourtime

  Yes you will have 11 and remember they are squared

[billythekidrock]

Doyourtime

  Yes you will have 11 and remember they are squared

He will only have 11 if he applies this year.

[huntnfmly]

He will have 10 from before plus the 1 when he applies for this year that will give him a total of 11 squared for this years draw

[slim9300]

He will have 10 from before plus the 1 when he applies for this year that will give him a total of 11 squared for this years draw

Are you sure it's not 10 squared plus 1? I always wondered about that.


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[bobcat]

He will have 10 from before plus the 1 when he applies for this year that will give him a total of 11 squared for this years draw

That's right, and that's what Billythekidrock was saying. He only has 10 now. The 11th point will only come when he applies this year.

The "points used" is the number of points that were used for that drawing. If you applied with other people, then it's not necessarily the number of points you have. It is the average number of points your group had.

[bobcat]

He will have 10 from before plus the 1 when he applies for this year that will give him a total of 11 squared for this years draw

Are you sure it's not 10 squared plus 1? I always wondered about that.


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The point is added to your point total when you submit your application. It is NOT added after the draw is over, when you are unsuccessful in drawing a permit. I think this is what confuses a lot of people, and it took me a long time to figure this out.

This is why nobody ever has zero points in the draw. You always start out with 1.

I don't know if this answered the question. But, nothing is ever added after the points are squared. 11 squared is 121 and that's how many chances you have in that drawing. Or if this is your first time every applying, you have 1 point, which of course when squared, is still 1, so you only have 1 chance.

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[Pathfinder101]

The "points used" thing was explained to me differently (maybe I got it wrong though).  I understood that when it said "points used" it means that your name actually was drawn, but when they checked your "choices" all of the tags for the choices you selected were gone already. 
So, basically, if you had 10 accumulated points for quality buck, and they ran your name through the system and you got drawn on the 8th try, but they checked your application and your choices were "Desert A and Entiat" and all of those tags were already given out, then you still didn't "draw anything", but it only took 8 of your 10 points to find that out. Since you didn't get a tag, you still have all of your points again next year.
 
A few years ago I had 7 points for a deer tag (before we went to "quality" and "buck" etc...) and the draw results showed "points used - 5", but I hadn't been drawn for anything.  So I started asking what happened, and that's how it was explained to me (not by WDFW, by a buddy).  Basically, I was drawn, but there were no tags left.  At least, that's how I understood the explaination...

[bobcat]

The "points used" thing was explained to me differently (maybe I got it wrong though).  I understood that when it said "points used" it means that your name actually was drawn, but when they checked your "choices" all of the tags for the choices you selected were gone already. 
So, basically, if you had 10 accumulated points for quality buck, and they ran your name through the system and you got drawn on the 8th try, but they checked your application and your choices were "Desert A and Entiat" and all of those tags were already given out, then you still didn't "draw anything", but it only took 8 of your 10 points to find that out. Since you didn't get a tag, you still have all of your points again next year.
 
A few years ago I had 7 points for a deer tag (before we went to "quality" and "buck" etc...) and the draw results showed "points used - 5", but I hadn't been drawn for anything.  So I started asking what happened, and that's how it was explained to me (not by WDFW, by a buddy).  Basically, I was drawn, but there were no tags left.  At least, that's how I understood the explaination...

Everyone is "drawn," you just may not be drawn before other applicants who also applied for the same hunt you applied for. If you had 7 points but it only showed 5, the only explanation for that is that you applied with a partner who had 3, for a total of 10 (7+3) and an average of 5.

So what you are seeing as "points used" is the average of your "group". If that is not the case, and you applied individually, then I don't know what to say, other than there must have been a mistake (and you got hosed). What did it show the next year for points in the deer category?

[Pathfinder101]

My points were correct the next year.  I am trying to remember if I was putting in with a buddy at that time.  That could have been the case...

[bobcat]

My points were correct the next year.  I am trying to remember if I was putting in with a buddy at that time.  That could have been the case...

If you go look at your application history, it will show whether you applied as an individual, a group member, or as a group leader.

Go here:  https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/wa/specialhunt

[Pathfinder101]

Yup, you're right.  I was a Group Member.  That makes sense...