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Wolf discussion scheduled at CWU

By MIKE JOHNSTON senior writer | 1 comment

Carter Niemeyer, author and former federal wolf recovery coordinator for Idaho, believes rural residents, cattle ranchers and big-game hunters can live with wolves in a reasonably compatible way as long as sensible wildlife management is promoted.

 Niemeyer will discuss reintroduction of wolves in the Pacific Northwest in a free talk 7 to 9 p.m. Wednesday in Science Building Room 147 on the campus of Central Washington University.

The event, sponsored by the CWU College of Sciences, department of biological sciences and the nonprofit advocacy group Conservation Northwest, will include a question and answer period and a book signing session with Niemeyer available to sign his book “Wolfer.”

“Wolves are neither good nor bad, but symbolically, people view wolves in different ways,” Niemeyer said in an interview late last week. “I suspect that Washington can expect some ideological conflicts until people get used to having wolves around for awhile. Fear and misunderstandings about wolves are what drive these conflicts.”

Niemeyer said wolves will fit in very well in some places and may cause real conflicts with people in other places; those issues will have to be worked out over time.

Niemeyer is a retired U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service wolf recovery coordinator for Idaho and, as an expert government trapper, was a key member of the federal wolf reintroduction team in Canada in the mid-1990s.

Kit McGurn, of Conservation Northwest, said  Niemeyer’s background and perspective gives him a credible voice on the issue of wolf reintroduction. He said Niemeyer is “a great speaker for the Central Washington community now that wolves are a reality on the ground.”

Jay Kehne, appointed in January by Gov. Chris Gregoire to the Washington Fish and Wildlife Commission, also will be at the event.

Kehne has worked part-time for Conservation Northwest as its Okanogan County outreach coordinator.

Some groups, including the Washington Farm Bureau, have opposed Kehne’s appointment because of his work with Conservation Northwest which has advocated for a version of a state wolf management plan that the groups opposed. The plan was approved by the state Fish and Wildlife Commission in December.

Wolf concerns

When asked about ranchers’ concerns about a growing wolf population, Niemeyer said losses to some individual livestock producers can be personally significant, but the overall impact to the livestock industry is negligible.

“It is difficult to convince any livestock producer that wolves shouldn’t be a major concern, but I don’t think their fears are warranted compared to all of the other causes of livestock death,” Niemeyer said.

Calves often targeted

He said when wolves target livestock, it’s usually calves and yearling cattle and a few dogs.

“In my experience, wolves don’t bother horses and adult cattle, although some losses have been reported,” Niemeyer said. “Most ranchers will never be affected by wolf predation.”

As far as the impact of wolves on local deer and elk populations, Niemeyer said mountain lions and black bears also prey on deer fawns and elk calves and vastly outnumber wolves, “so I don’t think wolves will have a negative impact on deer and elk.”

He said it is unreasonable to believe that wolves will not have some impact on big game herds including changing elk behavior and distribution, which has already been documented in other states, “but they certainly don’t wipe out their own food sources. Prey regulate predators, not the other way around.”
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Re: Carter Niemeyer & Jay Kehne to be at CWU to speak about Wolf issues
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2012, 08:19:13 AM »
If anyone can go, do it.  A great way to understand what is happening and meet and hear our new WDFW commissioner.  It takes great self control given the environment of these meetings but try to ask calmly how the state plans to pay for the wolves.  We are taxed to get them, taxed to maintain them and as Idaho is showing us, taxed again to control them.  Also, I always like to challenge the wolf groups to pay all of the expenses involved.  Good entertainment if your hide is thick and your voice is clear and calm.

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Re: Carter Niemeyer & Jay Kehne to be at CWU to speak about Wolf issues
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2012, 02:40:04 PM »
Sportsmen in Idaho credit Niemeyer as a primary player for the ruination of elk hunting, he is quite possibly one of the most disliked people in Idaho after the former director who illegally agreed to plant wolves in Idaho. They are a perfect combo to promote wolves in Washington to unsuspecting, well meaning people. Read the article, he states the same Disneyesque scenarios for wolves in Washington that have been proven false in Idaho, Montana, Canada, and Alaska.

MT/ID have been delisted, Washington is the new playground for wolfers.

No, I have never met Niemeyer and he might even be a nice guy to meet, I don't know, some people say Jay Kehne is a nice guy too. What I do know is that a lot of local businesses and economies have been ruined in ID/MT and people are not happy.

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Re: Carter Niemeyer & Jay Kehne to be at CWU to speak about Wolf issues
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2012, 02:59:17 PM »
If i were there i would ask for where the wolves have worked out good. Where is conflict min? The short answer is where the wolves are not there. 
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Re: Carter Niemeyer & Jay Kehne to be at CWU to speak about Wolf issues
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2012, 03:26:38 PM »
I don't know if anybody read the article in the Yakima Herald Republic from yesterday but I think this guy is full of  :crap:  just my  :twocents:  .
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Re: Carter Niemeyer & Jay Kehne to be at CWU to speak about Wolf issues
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2012, 04:25:56 PM »
The time I met Carter he was pretty decent and upfront about wolves.  I remember one statment he made in particular  "you're going to know if you have wolves- they're no good at hiding"  :)

He also mentioned that livestock losses are a sure thing- again wolves are predators- they're going to eat meat that is available.  Someone should go and see what they have to say- If the legality of the orignal reintroduction is really a question (it's not for me) then he would be the one to challenge for an answer.

Yesterday he helped instruct WFDW enforcement and some county folks to ID wolf depredations. 

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Re: Carter Niemeyer & Jay Kehne to be at CWU to speak about Wolf issues
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2012, 08:20:27 PM »
The two areas of legality I am aware of:

1.  The funneling of $50 million Pittman Robertson (state funds) for federal wolf introduction. (federal issue)
2.  The Idaho legislature had passed legislation against allowing wolves in Idaho. The director at that time circumvented Idaho law and signed the USFWS permit to turn them loose against the wishes of the state. (state issue)

I see no reason to ask Niemeyer, he would of course deny that because it has been his paycheck for the last 15 years.  :chuckle:

Those are facts which are recorded in congressional records and in Idaho state records. :twocents:
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