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Quote from: kentrek on May 08, 2012, 01:51:02 PMQuote from: slim9300 on May 08, 2012, 12:51:15 PMQuote from: Houndhunter on May 08, 2012, 12:06:56 PMI have the cabelas outfitter backpack, works great for me. the only problem i have is when im riding a bike with a fully loaded pack it digs into my back. they a bit on the heavy side but very well built and tons of room.as far as packing out a elk in one trip you guys are crazy, one mature elk equals 5 trips for me. approx 90lbs of meat in four packs then the horns and cape in another counts for the 5th.Are you saying that you get 360 lbs. of boned out meat from your mature elk? Or is that with the bone? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalkthat is a very achievable number for a mature bull elkNot a Rocky Mountain bull, it could have been a Roosevelt but it's unlikely. Show me some evidence of a Rocky Mountain bull living in the wild that weighed over 1000 lbs on the hoof. The vast majority of mature Rocky Mountain bulls will never exceed 700-750 lbs. even it they live to 8 or 9 years old. A 750 lb. bull would have roughly 250 lbs. of meat on their entire body and that would be a huge bull. To get 360 lbs. of boned put meat from an elk would indicate that the bull weighed around 1080 lbs. on the hoof. (If they took every scrap of meat) If you look at scientific data on the weight of elk this just does not happen and the few times that elk were recorded that weighed 1100 lbs. or more, they were from Vancouver Island and Afognak. I read this info in North American Elk Ecology and Management, if you are curious where I got my info. Maybe someone has proof of getting 360 lbs. of meat from an elk, but I would bet it's more likely an over estimation. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: slim9300 on May 08, 2012, 12:51:15 PMQuote from: Houndhunter on May 08, 2012, 12:06:56 PMI have the cabelas outfitter backpack, works great for me. the only problem i have is when im riding a bike with a fully loaded pack it digs into my back. they a bit on the heavy side but very well built and tons of room.as far as packing out a elk in one trip you guys are crazy, one mature elk equals 5 trips for me. approx 90lbs of meat in four packs then the horns and cape in another counts for the 5th.Are you saying that you get 360 lbs. of boned out meat from your mature elk? Or is that with the bone? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalkthat is a very achievable number for a mature bull elk
Quote from: Houndhunter on May 08, 2012, 12:06:56 PMI have the cabelas outfitter backpack, works great for me. the only problem i have is when im riding a bike with a fully loaded pack it digs into my back. they a bit on the heavy side but very well built and tons of room.as far as packing out a elk in one trip you guys are crazy, one mature elk equals 5 trips for me. approx 90lbs of meat in four packs then the horns and cape in another counts for the 5th.Are you saying that you get 360 lbs. of boned out meat from your mature elk? Or is that with the bone? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I have the cabelas outfitter backpack, works great for me. the only problem i have is when im riding a bike with a fully loaded pack it digs into my back. they a bit on the heavy side but very well built and tons of room.as far as packing out a elk in one trip you guys are crazy, one mature elk equals 5 trips for me. approx 90lbs of meat in four packs then the horns and cape in another counts for the 5th.
Quote from: slim9300 on May 08, 2012, 02:43:04 PMQuote from: kentrek on May 08, 2012, 01:51:02 PMQuote from: slim9300 on May 08, 2012, 12:51:15 PMQuote from: Houndhunter on May 08, 2012, 12:06:56 PMI have the cabelas outfitter backpack, works great for me. the only problem i have is when im riding a bike with a fully loaded pack it digs into my back. they a bit on the heavy side but very well built and tons of room.as far as packing out a elk in one trip you guys are crazy, one mature elk equals 5 trips for me. approx 90lbs of meat in four packs then the horns and cape in another counts for the 5th.Are you saying that you get 360 lbs. of boned out meat from your mature elk? Or is that with the bone? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalkthat is a very achievable number for a mature bull elkNot a Rocky Mountain bull, it could have been a Roosevelt but it's unlikely. Show me some evidence of a Rocky Mountain bull living in the wild that weighed over 1000 lbs on the hoof. The vast majority of mature Rocky Mountain bulls will never exceed 700-750 lbs. even it they live to 8 or 9 years old. A 750 lb. bull would have roughly 250 lbs. of meat on their entire body and that would be a huge bull. To get 360 lbs. of boned put meat from an elk would indicate that the bull weighed around 1080 lbs. on the hoof. (If they took every scrap of meat) If you look at scientific data on the weight of elk this just does not happen and the few times that elk were recorded that weighed 1100 lbs. or more, they were from Vancouver Island and Afognak. I read this info in North American Elk Ecology and Management, if you are curious where I got my info. Maybe someone has proof of getting 360 lbs. of meat from an elk, but I would bet it's more likely an over estimation. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSlim, the last bull I packed out was a little over 460 lbs of boned meat, antler, and cape. Now the area it was shot in is considered a rocky mountain elk. (Eastern Washington) The weight is extremely accurate since it was weighed at a shipping store. Maybe I packed out to much cape, the antlers were heavier then usual, or the bull was on roids. Idk.
What did just the meat weigh? Do you have a pic of the bull? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Mike,As far as the weight of the pack goes.... IMHO I will take a pack that weighs 9lbs that can haul 100lbs comfortably than a pack that weighs 6lbs that can only haul 60-80lbs comfortably. (Not saying the Kifaru can't haul 100lbs comfortably) The point being is that for a bivy hunt if the 9lb pack hauls gear and/or meat better than a 6lb pack with the same amount of gear you will enjoy the heavier pack more. When your pack is loaded down with all your gear, used as a day pack or hauling meat, if the 9lb pack is more comfortable and is a better design than the 6lb pack you will not notice the 3lb difference. The heavier pack will feel more comfortable. Personally I went with the Mystery Ranch because of the ability to swap out the bags on the same frame. The initial cost of buying the NICE frame with the Longbow was shocking but down the road when I buy the 6500 the sticker price wont be bad. Also the 6500 comes with a day pack lid. And as far as how the day pack lid straps down to the Longbow or other Mystery Ranch bags... Yes there are extra buckles that are there specifically for the day pack lid. I was unsure of if I was going to be able to do 5 days with the Longbow. But after playing with it a bit it is obvious that I will be able to do it. ALL of my gear fits inside the bag itself. I will have to purchase the 2 side pockets in order to put food in it for 5 days. There are so many lashing points that I really don't need the day pack lid. But it is something that I want so that I have the ability to do 3-4 days during the late season. Also for more room or gear I can strap my sleeping bag to the bottom of the pack and my tent or sleeping matt to the outside as well for even more room. OR I can put those items in between the bag and the pack. In short I feel that if I pack properly I can do 4 days during the late season with no problem with the Longbow. You could definately do this with a crew cab and load cells.
Slim,Check out page 19 of this thread... you yourself posted in it regarding elk weights...Start with post #272 bucklucky's and read down. There's talk of Roosevelt blood being in the blues and rear elk quarters boning out at 80 lbs.http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=78449.msg980520#msg980520Mike
Quote from: MichaelJ on May 08, 2012, 04:07:29 PMSlim,Check out page 19 of this thread... you yourself posted in it regarding elk weights...Start with post #272 bucklucky's and read down. There's talk of Roosevelt blood being in the blues and rear elk quarters boning out at 80 lbs.http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=78449.msg980520#msg980520MikeI remember the thread pretty well. It was a good discussion. Just add it up though. Even at 160 lbs. for the boned out hind quarters (which is a ton of meat for a hind quarter) that leaves how much meat for the rest of the animal? The vast majority of the meat on an elk is in the hind quarters. One might get 40-45 lbs. from a front quarter but I can't even imagine that. I know they vary by region a LOT. I saw it with the huge elk in the Gila. I just don't know if I can trust some of the weights I hear guys saying they get. I have killed too many elk (not to mention broken too many down) to not be somewhat skeptical. IDK. In the grand scheme of things it's not really a big deal. We are all eating elk and that's what matters. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkTotally agree... ive only killed two myself but have helped pack a lot more... actually helped pack out Charlie's Blues bull but showed up after it was hanging...Does anybody know where that YouTube video is on here of those monster bulls from the Dayton running through a field is? I remember their bodies being huge!
Most quality packs that have an adjustable torso length are more comfortable with shorter torso guys than tall torso guys because the load lifters are more functional.
