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Re: Backcountry Packs
« Reply #180 on: August 29, 2012, 10:06:00 AM »
Gotta have something that will carry in the ol Ipad, flatscreen tv, solar charger and batteries to boot! :chuckle: :chuckle:

On a serious side, I try to pare down my load as much as possible.  The new gear etc. is considerably lighter and more packable than what
was available back when I first started.   I like a smaller pack that has the option to strap tent etc. if need be so bag size isn't a huge factor.
As far as carrying out two quarters at one time.... unless it was a very small Elk I guess I'm a man who knows his limitations.... might be able to do it,
but wise enough to know the cost of doing so.  So I have a pack for hunting that will allow me one trip with meat, and I keep a meat hauler at the rig for the other trips. 
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Re: Backcountry Packs
« Reply #181 on: August 29, 2012, 08:17:43 PM »
Yep! Watched some videos on them and I like the design. Wish they were sold in stores though...it would be nice to test fit one before dropping the coin :twocents:

If you don't like it you can send it back for a 100% refund. But I bet that wont happen. ;)


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Good to know, but unfortunately I took a good long look at a Mystery Ranch and boy does it have some features I like!! Good thing I have 4 months to decide :tup:
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Re: Backcountry Packs
« Reply #182 on: August 30, 2012, 07:26:06 AM »
Yep! Watched some videos on them and I like the design. Wish they were sold in stores though...it would be nice to test fit one before dropping the coin :twocents:

If you don't like it you can send it back for a 100% refund. But I bet that wont happen. ;)


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Good to know, but unfortunately I took a good long look at a Mystery Ranch and boy does it have some features I like!! Good thing I have 4 months to decide :tup:
10lb starting pack weight on the mystery ranch should shut those thoughts down quickly unless that doesnt bother you...

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Re: Backcountry Packs
« Reply #183 on: August 30, 2012, 07:51:28 AM »
10 lbs starting weight is just ridiculous IMO.   I prefer to travel as light as possible, then if/when I get a deer down I'll handle it.   If it takes two trips because my pack only cost $100 and weighs in at 3 -4 lbs empty...so be it.   Big deal, I got my buck.   

Also, I don't care how many people say "oh but the pack fits so nice that you don't feel the weight".   BS.   Your knees, ankles, and feet are still being subjected to 10lbs of additional starting weight... I don't care how it fits on your back.  That may not matter when it's empty and you're walking around the store, but what about when you throw 40 lbs of gear in it?  Now you're at 50lbs.   How about 50lbs of gear?  Now you're at 60 lbs.   Still doesn't matter?  Bump up the gear to 60 lbs....now you're carrying 70.   You're knees will feel the difference.
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Re: Backcountry Packs
« Reply #184 on: August 30, 2012, 08:00:54 AM »
agreed miles. i personally go over my gear when i get back from a trip and try to decide if theres anything i havent used that i can cut. annually i try to decide what items i can replace with lighter items. this year for me it was tent,sl5, bag, feathered friends, rifle, t3sl. i think i shaved around 7lbs off my setup with those upgrades. i can tell you right now if i had a 10lb pack it would definately be on the shortlist for weight reduction upgrades...

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Re: Backcountry Packs
« Reply #185 on: August 30, 2012, 08:15:59 AM »
Yeah...those heavy packs really suck, it would have been so much easier to take two trips the 20 miles back to the strip in a $100 pack.


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Re: Backcountry Packs
« Reply #186 on: August 30, 2012, 08:17:58 AM »
Yeah...those heavy packs really suck, it would have been so much easier to take two trips the 20 miles back to the strip in a $100 pack.



:chuckle:  Maybe $100 is a little low... but the weights of your pack sure aren't.     Are you suggesting it couldn't have been done with a lighter pack?

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Re: Backcountry Packs
« Reply #187 on: August 30, 2012, 08:36:02 AM »
Also... to quote you:

A note on packs. Everyone will have extremely biased opinions on either what they own (good/bad) or who they choose to believe (mostly on the internet). When people start talking about a "backcountry pack" most of us will tend to focus on the weight hauling ability of the pack and the comfort that coincides with hauling heavy weight. The fact of the matter is, all hunts and loads are not created equal. A 3 day mule deer hunt is not the same as a 14 day sheep hunt.

Note the fact that I haven't posted pictures or names of my packs (boasting about their "capabilities"). 

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Re: Backcountry Packs
« Reply #188 on: August 30, 2012, 08:46:47 AM »
Think sheep hunting is a big deal, try a 9 mile moose trek, with hams weighing in at 180 pounds.   Most packs on the market can't take it.  Hell most men can't either :chuckle:

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Re: Backcountry Packs
« Reply #189 on: August 30, 2012, 08:48:45 AM »
Think sheep hunting is a big deal, try a 9 mile moose trek, with hams weighing in at 180 pounds.   Most packs on the market can't take it.  Hell most men can't either :chuckle:
seems as though the class of alder crashing definately contributes to this as well, are we talking class 4 or 5?

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Re: Backcountry Packs
« Reply #190 on: August 30, 2012, 04:23:10 PM »
10 lbs starting weight is just ridiculous IMO.   I prefer to travel as light as possible, then if/when I get a deer down I'll handle it.   If it takes two trips because my pack only cost $100 and weighs in at 3 -4 lbs empty...so be it.   Big deal, I got my buck.   

Also, I don't care how many people say "oh but the pack fits so nice that you don't feel the weight".   BS.   Your knees, ankles, and feet are still being subjected to 10lbs of additional starting weight... I don't care how it fits on your back.  That may not matter when it's empty and you're walking around the store, but what about when you throw 40 lbs of gear in it?  Now you're at 50lbs.   How about 50lbs of gear?  Now you're at 60 lbs.   Still doesn't matter?  Bump up the gear to 60 lbs....now you're carrying 70.   You're knees will feel the difference.

Too bad the difference between a Mystery Ranch and a Kifaru is not 10lbs.  More like 2.5lbs.  Unless you are comparing a MR 7500 to a KU then the weight difference is like 5lbs.  But then again the ability to carry heavy weight isn't comparable either.  The MR7500 will destroy the KU in weight carrying ability hands down.  But if you are comparing the Mystery Ranch 7500 (9lbs 11oz) and the Kifaru Duplex Timberline 1 (7lbs 3 oz) then the actual weight difference is only 2.5lbs.  And your knees are not going to notice that at all.  What your knees WILL notice is which pack fits the INDIVIDUAL better.
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Re: Backcountry Packs
« Reply #191 on: August 30, 2012, 05:09:28 PM »
10 lbs starting weight is just ridiculous IMO.   I prefer to travel as light as possible, then if/when I get a deer down I'll handle it.   If it takes two trips because my pack only cost $100 and weighs in at 3 -4 lbs empty...so be it.   Big deal, I got my buck.   

Also, I don't care how many people say "oh but the pack fits so nice that you don't feel the weight".   BS.   Your knees, ankles, and feet are still being subjected to 10lbs of additional starting weight... I don't care how it fits on your back.  That may not matter when it's empty and you're walking around the store, but what about when you throw 40 lbs of gear in it?  Now you're at 50lbs.   How about 50lbs of gear?  Now you're at 60 lbs.   Still doesn't matter?  Bump up the gear to 60 lbs....now you're carrying 70.   You're knees will feel the difference.

Too bad the difference between a Mystery Ranch and a Kifaru is not 10lbs.  More like 2.5lbs.  Unless you are comparing a MR 7500 to a KU then the weight difference is like 5lbs.  But then again the ability to carry heavy weight isn't comparable either.  The MR7500 will destroy the KU in weight carrying ability hands down.  But if you are comparing the Mystery Ranch 7500 (9lbs 11oz) and the Kifaru Duplex Timberline 1 (7lbs 3 oz) then the actual weight difference is only 2.5lbs.  And your knees are not going to notice that at all.  What your knees WILL notice is which pack fits the INDIVIDUAL better.

Well said and the absolute truth.
 I'll take my 10# pack over a 5# pack anytime.

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Re: Backcountry Packs
« Reply #192 on: August 30, 2012, 05:14:05 PM »
10 lbs starting weight is just ridiculous IMO.   I prefer to travel as light as possible, then if/when I get a deer down I'll handle it.   If it takes two trips because my pack only cost $100 and weighs in at 3 -4 lbs empty...so be it.   Big deal, I got my buck.   

Also, I don't care how many people say "oh but the pack fits so nice that you don't feel the weight".   BS.   Your knees, ankles, and feet are still being subjected to 10lbs of additional starting weight... I don't care how it fits on your back.  That may not matter when it's empty and you're walking around the store, but what about when you throw 40 lbs of gear in it?  Now you're at 50lbs.   How about 50lbs of gear?  Now you're at 60 lbs.   Still doesn't matter?  Bump up the gear to 60 lbs....now you're carrying 70.   You're knees will feel the difference.

Too bad the difference between a Mystery Ranch and a Kifaru is not 10lbs.  More like 2.5lbs.  Unless you are comparing a MR 7500 to a KU then the weight difference is like 5lbs.  But then again the ability to carry heavy weight isn't comparable either.  The MR7500 will destroy the KU in weight carrying ability hands down.  But if you are comparing the Mystery Ranch 7500 (9lbs 11oz) and the Kifaru Duplex Timberline 1 (7lbs 3 oz) then the actual weight difference is only 2.5lbs.  And your knees are not going to notice that at all.  What your knees WILL notice is which pack fits the INDIVIDUAL better.

Weight is weight, doesn't matter how you "fit" it to your body.  Your body has to do more work to move more weight. 

I said 10 lb starting weight is ridiculous.  I was not comparing anything. 

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Re: Backcountry Packs
« Reply #193 on: August 30, 2012, 05:51:47 PM »
10 lbs starting weight is just ridiculous IMO.   I prefer to travel as light as possible, then if/when I get a deer down I'll handle it.   If it takes two trips because my pack only cost $100 and weighs in at 3 -4 lbs empty...so be it.   Big deal, I got my buck.   

Also, I don't care how many people say "oh but the pack fits so nice that you don't feel the weight".   BS.   Your knees, ankles, and feet are still being subjected to 10lbs of additional starting weight... I don't care how it fits on your back.  That may not matter when it's empty and you're walking around the store, but what about when you throw 40 lbs of gear in it?  Now you're at 50lbs.   How about 50lbs of gear?  Now you're at 60 lbs.   Still doesn't matter?  Bump up the gear to 60 lbs....now you're carrying 70.   You're knees will feel the difference.

Too bad the difference between a Mystery Ranch and a Kifaru is not 10lbs.  More like 2.5lbs.  Unless you are comparing a MR 7500 to a KU then the weight difference is like 5lbs.  But then again the ability to carry heavy weight isn't comparable either.  The MR7500 will destroy the KU in weight carrying ability hands down.  But if you are comparing the Mystery Ranch 7500 (9lbs 11oz) and the Kifaru Duplex Timberline 1 (7lbs 3 oz) then the actual weight difference is only 2.5lbs.  And your knees are not going to notice that at all.  What your knees WILL notice is which pack fits the INDIVIDUAL better.

Weight is weight, doesn't matter how you "fit" it to your body.  Your body has to do more work to move more weight. 

I said 10 lb starting weight is ridiculous.  I was not comparing anything. 

Thanks.

i agree...ten pounds is very ridiculous..just my  :twocents:

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Re: Backcountry Packs
« Reply #194 on: August 30, 2012, 06:09:15 PM »
Also, I don't care how many people say "oh but the pack fits so nice that you don't feel the weight".   BS.   Your knees, ankles, and feet are still being subjected to 10lbs of additional starting weight... I don't care how it fits on your back.


No you were saying that the starting weight of a Mystery Ranch is 10lbs more than a Kifaru.  Which is false. It's 2.5 lbs. I know because I went to both websites and looked it up. And your body won't notice 2.5 lbs. The difference will be in how the pack fits that individual.

Kenetrek I agree 10lbs difference between packs would be redicoulous if it were true but its not true. It's only 2.5lbs. 
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