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Offline slim9300

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« Reply #30 on: May 14, 2012, 09:34:24 PM »
im curious no one has mentioned blazer vanes. i was shooting 4 inch vanes and wasnt grouping with my bh's as well as i would have liked so i switched to blazers and the difference was astronomical! i wont ever shoot 4 inch vanes again and i shot them for 16 years. with practice tips i didnt notice a difference but when i switched to bh's the improvement was hugely noticeable!

Blazers definately help alot.  I've been tinkering with NAP Quickspins, and am finding them tightening my groups even more.  I haven't tuned them for 60+ yards shots with broadheads yet, so we'll see.

Try 4 blazers with your broadheads and you will thank me later. ;)

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« Reply #31 on: May 14, 2012, 09:44:27 PM »
a blade broke off on my bull using slick tricks last year. wasnt a fan of that and wont be shooting them anymore. :twocents:

Between my partner and I, we have killed 13 elk in the last five years with ST's (and a lot of deer). About half of the elk we got second arrows into also. We have not had a single blade break and I have used the same ferrule on 5 animals before it no longer spun true. I think you got really unlucky if that makes you feel better. ST's are probably the most reliable and toughest head on the market.

I'm curious what head you are thinking about going to because I am willing to bet I could direct you to multiple horror stories about it breaking.




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Re: Broadheads
« Reply #32 on: May 14, 2012, 10:00:35 PM »
im curious no one has mentioned blazer vanes. i was shooting 4 inch vanes and wasnt grouping with my bh's as well as i would have liked so i switched to blazers and the difference was astronomical! i wont ever shoot 4 inch vanes again and i shot them for 16 years. with practice tips i didnt notice a difference but when i switched to bh's the improvement was hugely noticeable!

Blazers definately help alot.  I've been tinkering with NAP Quickspins, and am finding them tightening my groups even more.  I haven't tuned them for 60+ yards shots with broadheads yet, so we'll see.

I agree w/ the blazers, first year useing them and love em. Slapped on a muzzy 3 blade 100gr and omg i was impressed how stable they flew after i got the bow sighted in w/ fieldpoints.



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Re: Broadheads
« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2012, 12:29:23 PM »
I used to love the shuttle t's but I've switched to slick tricks and tune to the string they fly like darts and i've had no issue on many animals . I'm not a fan of two blade broadheads on elk inless they have a bleeder blade like the hell fires . a fatty elk will plug up a two blade wound channell and make tracking tough . on a recurve I feel they work better . a few years ago I did a broad head test with 100 plus lbs of ke and the t locks where the toughest , next was the hell fires .

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Re: Broadheads
« Reply #34 on: May 15, 2012, 12:47:35 PM »
Slim, I usually use 125gr magnus stinger buzzcuts. I made the choice to shoot a different bow about a month before the season because I was shooting it better than my (then) current hunting bow. It was tuned and sighted in for 100gr tips and I had some 100gr slick tricks. Ill stick to the stingers til I lose a blade then it will be back to shuttle t's. I'm done with the st's.
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« Reply #35 on: May 15, 2012, 12:54:06 PM »
My buddy last year spined and elk w/four blade Slick tricks (125gr).  Did not fully penetrate and busted two of the four blades off.  FYI, he was shooting a Mathews M7 at almost 80lbs!  I used to shoot Slick tricks too, but penetration isn't as good as some other brands.  Buddy still shoots them, but I switched to 150gr single-bevel  two-blade Samurai BHs from Alaska Bowhunting.  Complete double-lung pass thru on a BIG fatty cow after busting both ribs (near and far side).  Plus the single-bevel broadheads continue to rotate as they penetrate.  In other words, big hole and easy tracking job!  My bow is a Hoyt trykon XL at 70lbs, 31.5" draw and almost 90lbs KE

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« Reply #36 on: May 15, 2012, 02:21:06 PM »
My buddy last year spined and elk w/four blade Slick tricks (125gr).  Did not fully penetrate and busted two of the four blades off.  FYI, he was shooting a Mathews M7 at almost 80lbs!  I used to shoot Slick tricks too, but penetration isn't as good as some other brands.  Buddy still shoots them, but I switched to 150gr single-bevel  two-blade Samurai BHs from Alaska Bowhunting.  Complete double-lung pass thru on a BIG fatty cow after busting both ribs (near and far side).  Plus the single-bevel broadheads continue to rotate as they penetrate.  In other words, big hole and easy tracking job!  My bow is a Hoyt trykon XL at 70lbs, 31.5" draw and almost 90lbs KE

If you spine an elk you can't expect a passthrough as you already know, but there is no doubt that a 4 blade head will never out penetrate a 2 or 3 blade head of equal cutting diameter. I routinely shoot for the meat of the shoulder on elk and deer to try and shoot out the top of the heart. I still get mostly passthroughs.

As for the blades breaking I wouldn't say that's the fault of the broadhead. I have hit the shoulder bone solid on an elk and buried into the bone up to the insert. Once I got the broadhead out there was no damage. The spine can put side pressure on the blades as it moves and twists. Who knows how that head broke.

This is where I shoot elk. Too many guys are worried about the shoulder in my opinion and don't understand the anatomy of their prey. Too many bowhunters seem to gut shoot elk. It's pretty easy to see why.








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Re: Broadheads
« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2012, 10:22:24 PM »
 sweet picture of that bull... wonder how that happened to him  :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

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« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2012, 09:03:21 AM »
sweet picture of that bull... wonder how that happened to him  :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

He had a rough day. ;)


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Re: Broadheads
« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2012, 09:55:17 AM »
Nobody shooting G5 montecs? I was given some as a gift this year and planning on trying them out.  Thoughts?

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Re: Broadheads
« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2012, 10:12:24 AM »
Nobody shooting G5 montecs? I was given some as a gift this year and planning on trying them out.  Thoughts?

 i personaly did not like them, my brother and i shot them for two years and then the carbon montecs for another one year. in 6 elk and two deer the majority did not bleed out,the entry holes closed up i gues creating a sort of blood shot goop and shyty blood trails.all but one animal ran over a hundred yards befor crashing(idk if thats a normal distance but so far the slick tricks have done far better)

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Re: Broadheads
« Reply #41 on: May 17, 2012, 10:40:37 AM »
I have had opposite results with montecs  :dunno: fly well and really tough. no problem blowing through shoulders. 4 deer haven't made it farther than fifty yards all the while leaving a blood trail a blind monkey could follow. but I guess everyone's experiences differ with broadheads.

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« Reply #42 on: May 17, 2012, 11:57:01 AM »
You can't go wrong with wac'ems, I shot a cow at 55yds broke 2 ribs with a pass through and still went 2 inches into a tree behind it. I showed it to my buddy and he asked if he could use that same broadhead (he didn't even change the blades) and the next day he shot a cow at 30-40yds it went through the front shoulder 1 rib and somehow popped out the top of its back.  :yike:

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Re: Broadheads
« Reply #43 on: May 17, 2012, 12:08:12 PM »
You can't go wrong with wac'ems, I shot a cow at 55yds broke 2 ribs with a pass through and still went 2 inches into a tree behind it. I showed it to my buddy and he asked if he could use that same broadhead (he didn't even change the blades) and the next day he shot a cow at 30-40yds it went through the front shoulder 1 rib and somehow popped out the top of its back.  :yike:
I've shot wac'ems before good head my question is why the hell would your buddy want to shoot a used broadhead that isn't sharp.

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Re: Broadheads
« Reply #44 on: May 17, 2012, 01:28:36 PM »
The montecs aren't as sharp as replacables for sure but make up for it through toughness. that heart shot is a weird one  :dunno:

 


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