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Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #60 on: December 28, 2012, 07:22:24 PM »
Well me and my buddy are going to play this year. As long as we can travel the roads over to the tri cities. We will see you guys at checkin  :tup:

Good!  I hope the weather cooperates too.  Coyoteshooter: come anyway--there is bound to be somebody that needs a partner there.
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Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #61 on: December 28, 2012, 07:37:01 PM »
Yeah ur right but ill like to find one before that day 

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Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #62 on: December 28, 2012, 07:56:18 PM »
I would love to do the tourney to redeem myself from the performance that we put on a the Worlds a couple of weeks ago.  I hate being the buzzkill, but how do you prevent cheating? How do you prevent teams from pooling kills.  I would like to do it but have competed in tournaments before and hate spending the time and money on them when i have lost before i even get started.  Winning aint everything, but it is funner to save the money and the hassel and just have a good day of hunting.

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Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #63 on: December 28, 2012, 07:58:40 PM »
Yeah ur right but ill like to find one before that day

Be great if you can...I teamed up with a guy that came single last year, and we had a ball!  We're teaming up again this year.  Met some really nice people there, too.  I'm looking forward to a good time!  :tup:
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Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #64 on: December 28, 2012, 08:05:33 PM »
I would love to do the tourney to redeem myself from the performance that we put on a the Worlds a couple of weeks ago.  I hate being the buzzkill, but how do you prevent cheating? How do you prevent teams from pooling kills.  I would like to do it but have competed in tournaments before and hate spending the time and money on them when i have lost before i even get started.  Winning aint everything, but it is funner to save the money and the hassel and just have a good day of hunting.

On signup, you will be given a set of wood blocks with zip-ties to put in the mouth of any coyote a team kills.  Rigor sets in quickly, making getting a dog's mouth open hard.  I guess there's no way to guarrantee 100% no cheating, but with no big prizes, I doubt anyone would want to.....  :dunno:
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Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #65 on: December 28, 2012, 08:08:52 PM »
I'll be there for sure   anyone looking for partner p.m. me 

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Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #66 on: December 28, 2012, 09:36:43 PM »
I would love to do the tourney to redeem myself from the performance that we put on a the Worlds a couple of weeks ago.  I hate being the buzzkill, but how do you prevent cheating? How do you prevent teams from pooling kills.  I would like to do it but have competed in tournaments before and hate spending the time and money on them when i have lost before i even get started.  Winning aint everything, but it is funner to save the money and the hassel and just have a good day of hunting.
We hand out mouth blocks that are numbered and assigned to each team. Last year the winning teams tied with 7 each not a unreasonable amount. I understand that just because cheating did not happen last year does not mean it can't happen this year. I think we go above and beyond to try and prevent cheating but, cheaters will always find a way. Hope you come the more honest people entering will hopefully drive away the cheaters.
 
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Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #67 on: December 28, 2012, 10:11:42 PM »
cheaters are losers anyways hunting is not about winning any prizes  it's about having fun and making memories 

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Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #68 on: December 29, 2012, 06:36:46 AM »
If I remember, last years winners won, by road hunting all night.  :P
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Stands : 39
Kills : 3
Runners : 6
Misses : 5

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Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #69 on: December 29, 2012, 07:39:02 AM »
If I remember, last years winners won, by road hunting all night.  :P

That is somewhat right I guess.  They did drive the back roads using a siren locator to find them than called them in and spot lighted them.  I think both teams with the 7 count used the same method.

The way the wind was blowing, I am surprised that even worked  :yike:

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Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #70 on: December 29, 2012, 07:49:11 AM »
I would love to do the tourney to redeem myself from the performance that we put on a the Worlds a couple of weeks ago.  I hate being the buzzkill, but how do you prevent cheating? How do you prevent teams from pooling kills.  I would like to do it but have competed in tournaments before and hate spending the time and money on them when i have lost before i even get started.  Winning aint everything, but it is funner to save the money and the hassel and just have a good day of hunting.

On signup, you will be given a set of wood blocks with zip-ties to put in the mouth of any coyote a team kills.  Rigor sets in quickly, making getting a dog's mouth open hard.  I guess there's no way to guarrantee 100% no cheating, but with no big prizes, I doubt anyone would want to.....  :dunno:

Last year with 19 teams entered, we feel that there was no cheating done.   We do go to extremes to TRY to minimize the possibility of cheating.  As Heredoggygoggy says, there is no real huge prizes involved but big enough to make it worth the effort.  The WDFW regulates the amount of prizes allowed to be distributed in cash and prizes.  Our efforts is to organize a good time for sportsmen.  Can we totally prevent cheating, I wish we could but . . .  a true sportsman would not think of cheating.

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Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #71 on: December 29, 2012, 08:11:54 AM »
Depending on the number of people who enter the side pots, there are real opportunities there.  :chuckle:

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Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #72 on: December 29, 2012, 10:24:23 AM »
Motel 6 in Pasco said we can get at 10% discout group rate if we reserve 3 or more rooms for the weekend of the Coyote Classic. It is right across the street from the RDO Equipment check in site. It is also right off the freeway so also close. Please post if you plan to stay there so we can register reservations under WPHA and all get the discount.  :tup:
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Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #73 on: December 29, 2012, 01:14:03 PM »
The last tourney i did (before the Worlds) was in Oregon and the rules were that if it was legal in Oregon it is legal for the tourney.  The host said that he cant police every team and make sure that they were all on the up and up, so the only fair thing to do was to make it all ok for everyone.  I didnt find this out until we got there and paid my fee.  The winning team didnt kill a coyote on day one, then got all drunked up and drove around on a 20,000 acre ranch they had and shot them out of the window of the truck, and checked in with 15 on day two.  Not a good feeling when you try to compete and really see how you stand up with others when it comes to coyote calling.  I truely dont care about any prize at all, i would rather get nothing for winning and just have a good ol fun competition and see who is the best, and meet some good passionate people that really want to CALL COYOTES.

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Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #74 on: December 29, 2012, 03:04:09 PM »
I am all for people taking coyotes in any way that is legal and not dangerous to people or property.  But a competition is what it is and should be done with rules and should be done with the mindset that people are there to compete by calling them and nothing else.  If not, what is the competition?  Nothing wrong with road hunting if that is how you want to spend your day hunting yotes, but by no means should you think of yourself as a coyote hunter that won a competition under those terms.  I just hope that the winners are guys or girls that truely followed the rules.

 


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