Well after getting quite a bit of help from fellow hunters my toutle hunt statrs on monday. Got everything ready and getting preety anxious to get out there, I've got a buddy up there in the winston unit thats been on bulls everyday and has told me that they are screaming. And now that Charlies done maybe I can get him up there to help me out. Thanks to everyone that gave me advice or helped out and hopefully I will post successfull pictures next week.