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Re: Giving Utah our sheep
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2019, 05:02:15 AM »
Nope
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Re: Giving Utah our sheep
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2019, 05:03:57 AM »
The Tucannon herd and Asotin herds are at 15 year lows. Not to mention there’s minimal mature rams included.
(That is if you want to consider the Tucannon herd, a herd. )

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Re: Giving Utah our sheep
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2019, 05:05:04 AM »
So that's probably not a good area to apply for?
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Re: Giving Utah our sheep
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2019, 05:05:56 AM »
And the “Nez Perces” commitment to limit harvest amongst the Asotin herd is, well a broken commitment.
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Re: Giving Utah our sheep
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2019, 05:59:03 AM »
Why not offer increased hunting opportunities to WA hunters instead?
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Re: Giving Utah our sheep
« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2019, 06:09:33 AM »
yet there is almost 0 opportunity for the Mt View herd and Wenaha herd. I was at the sheep show last year and was surprised at the numbers they had up for those herds and have never seen a permit tag. I had 21 rams hit 1 cam in Mt View this past summer. The number I remember seeing for Mt View was 145 sheep

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Re: Giving Utah our sheep
« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2019, 06:10:57 AM »
It has a lot to do with mixing the gene pool . It goes both ways and where do people think our sheep came from ? predator management and separation from domestic sheep is a way bigger deal than sending a few to utah.
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Re: Giving Utah our sheep
« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2019, 06:30:42 AM »
The lack of predator management is a way more concern for me.  This state needs to get back with the program or we will not have any game left to hunt.  Why can't we relocate some wolves from eastern Washington to western Washington so we can get started with this so call wolf management plan?  The state has been flying a plane and helicopter for several days collaring wolves in the NE corner of Washington.  Guess who is paying that bill? Sorry about my rant.  Relocating some sheep to Utah may help us with our herd later.
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Re: Giving Utah our sheep
« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2019, 06:34:31 AM »
Like the herd down in the blues

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Those are Rocky's. These are Cali's
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Re: Giving Utah our sheep
« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2019, 06:36:10 AM »
Like the herd down in the blues

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Those are Rocky's. These are Cali's
Didn't even think of that

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Is there really that much of a difference? I'm no biologist and I've heard it both ways

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Re: Giving Utah our sheep
« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2019, 07:02:14 AM »
It has a lot to do with mixing the gene pool . It goes both ways and where do people think our sheep came from ? predator management and separation from domestic sheep is a way bigger deal than sending a few to utah.

I’d hope that’s the case but given the trust in WDFW, well......would have preferred they give more opportunities to our hunters with more tags or relocate within state.

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Re: Giving Utah our sheep
« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2019, 07:03:30 AM »
Nevada gave us a couple hundred antelope.


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Re: Giving Utah our sheep
« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2019, 07:51:01 AM »
Pretty sure the folks with Wash. Wild Sheep have more to do with this, and are working with the transfer of sheep to other states than WDFW. Having spent time with some of these guys and being a member of wild sheep gives me confidence to trust they know what they are doing and that it will benefit us here in the long run.. I don't know a bunch about sheep but do know there are plenty to spare or share from chelan… and I do know we don't want calis mixed in down in the Blues with one of our only rocky herds.. Join wild sheep and you'll get a magazine and emails every few months talking about these projects with the facts..

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Re: Giving Utah our sheep
« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2019, 08:46:47 AM »
Nevada gave us a couple hundred antelope.


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Re: Giving Utah our sheep
« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2019, 09:04:19 AM »
Without interstate transfers of game animals, Washington would not have California bighorns, Rocky mountain elk, 3 subspecies of turkeys, California quail, chukars, huns, and ring-necked pheasants.  Possibly some of these would have arrived eventually by natural range expansion, but it's doubtful we'd have the Yakima and Colockum elk herds, most of our California bighorns, or turkeys.
As long as we have the habitat, we can argue forever about who gets to kill what and when.  No habitat = no game.

 


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