The KETO thread

[vandeman17]

Keto is great for us growing older lower testosterone guys lol. I do it 5 out of 7 days per week. Then it's game on Friday thru sunday

Interesting. So you never are in ketosis since you come off it two days. Basically you are just eating less calories overall... 

[outdooraddict]

i finally hit the 26 lb mark, got stuck at 22-24 lbs for a little over a week.  the difficulty in hunting season, is the campfire, tent, buddies, and beer lol

[noffles]

Keto is great for us growing older lower testosterone guys lol. I do it 5 out of 7 days per week. Then it's game on Friday thru sunday

Interesting. So you never are in ketosis since you come off it two days. Basically you are just eating less calories overall... 

What do you mean? I didn't make that post but I can get back into ketosis no problem in under 24 hours as long as I don't go crazy on off days.

[vandeman17]

Keto is great for us growing older lower testosterone guys lol. I do it 5 out of 7 days per week. Then it's game on Friday thru sunday

Interesting. So you never are in ketosis since you come off it two days. Basically you are just eating less calories overall... 

What do you mean? I didn't make that post but I can get back into ketosis no problem in under 24 hours as long as I don't go crazy on off days.

This is key. If you are barely over on carbs or something but the post I was replying to said game on Friday through Sunday which doesn't sound like just having a few extra carbs.

[Stein]

Your body can't store all that much glycogen.  You deplete liver glycogen overnight just while you sleep.  I think a lot of people assume there is no stored glycogen while in ketosis, which just isn't true.  Your body makes as much glycogen as it wants, I have no problem sprinting, Crossfit or whatever in any state of ketosis, all of which are relatively high on the glycogen demand.

From my experience, it is very individual how fast you get into an actual state of Ketosis - which isn't even identified or consistent what that even means.

I also don't think it matters much from a performance or diet standpoint what your blood ketone level is.  I haven't seen any good research that shows benefits of a certain ketone level for weight loss or performance and as I mentioned, people don't even agree what the threshold for being in ketois is.

In my mind, there is a ketosis diet and there is being in ketosis.  You can be following a ketosis diet and not be in ketosis and you can also not be following a ketois diet and be in ketosis.

I experiment with carb levels and timing and don't care what my blood ketosis levels are.

[vandeman17]

Your body can't store all that much glycogen.  You deplete liver glycogen overnight just while you sleep.  I think a lot of people assume there is no stored glycogen while in ketosis, which just isn't true.  Your body makes as much glycogen as it wants, I have no problem sprinting, Crossfit or whatever in any state of ketosis, all of which are relatively high on the glycogen demand.

From my experience, it is very individual how fast you get into an actual state of Ketosis - which isn't even identified or consistent what that even means.

I also don't think it matters much from a performance or diet standpoint what your blood ketone level is.  I haven't seen any good research that shows benefits of a certain ketone level for weight loss or performance and as I mentioned, people don't even agree what the threshold for being in ketois is.

In my mind, there is a ketosis diet and there is being in ketosis.  You can be following a ketosis diet and not be in ketosis and you can also not be following a ketois diet and be in ketosis.

I experiment with carb levels and timing and don't care what my blood ketosis levels are.

100% agree. I believe that the keto diet doesn't inherently make your body do something different so that it loses weight but instead, the person ends up eating in a caloric deficit by following keto and that is how they lose weight. As for as overall health, performance etc, I think more studies and tests would need to be done over a longer duration to draw any conclusions to overall benefit.