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.280ai vs 6.5PRC
« on: June 06, 2020, 07:24:45 AM »
Looking to build/buy a light weight rifle. Something more of a "do all" rifle, so everything from deer, bull elk & maybe someday if Im lucky, moose. Moose being more of a less issue in this decision. I know it's not a apples to apples comparison, but the more I compare the data, the more similar these 2 are. The Ackley can shoot heavier bullets, but the downrange energy of the PRC is no slouch. I have compared factory ammo cost/availability & felt recoil. I can reload, but find my self going factory more & more due to time limitation.
I have gotten a different opinion from the handful of folks I trust, read every "vs" article & compared numerous ballistic tables side by side.
Anything else I should consider or anyone out there who knows there stuff care to throw in your 2 cents?

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Re: .280ai vs 6.5PRC
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2020, 08:05:12 AM »
280AI if you’re building & handloading. Probably a better choice for elk as well :twocents:

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Re: .280ai vs 6.5PRC
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2020, 08:14:38 AM »
280AI if you’re building & handloading. Probably a better choice for elk as well :twocents:

Thanks. I don't know for sure I would build yet. I like the Christianson Arms Ridgeline & the Savage ultra-light w/ the proof barrel.
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Re: .280ai vs 6.5PRC
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2020, 08:19:41 AM »
Since you say deer & elk, 280 with 165/168 bullets.  Also, how far do you intend to shoot at game ?  Lots of less expensive rifles than the ones you mentioned that will shoot as well or better.

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Re: .280ai vs 6.5PRC
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2020, 08:23:18 AM »
280 AI!  for the win.

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Re: .280ai vs 6.5PRC
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2020, 08:26:07 AM »
.280 AI with 150 gr Barnes TSX or 150 gr Nosler ABLR will be your ticket.
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Re: .280ai vs 6.5PRC
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2020, 08:41:31 AM »
For the .280ai votes, whats your reasoning & are you familiar with the PRC ballistics?
Alot of folks (including me at first) hear "6.5" & think its just another creedmore. Tables show it having the energy of a magnum type platform.

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Re: .280ai vs 6.5PRC
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2020, 08:53:42 AM »
The PRC ballistics I looked at you can run a 140gr bullet at 2900 + or - fps, which is about what the factory loads run at.  So it's close to a 270 win.    With a 280AI you can get 3000 fps or close with a 150/160 grain bullets.   I tend to enjoy heavy for load bullets so a 280AI gets the nod for versatility. 

For me overall the 280 just checks all the boxes.   

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Re: .280ai vs 6.5PRC
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2020, 09:05:25 AM »
The PRC ballistics I looked at you can run a 140gr bullet at 2900 + or - fps, which is about what the factory loads run at.  So it's close to a 270 win.    With a 280AI you can get 3000 fps or close with a 150/160 grain bullets.   I tend to enjoy heavy for load bullets so a 280AI gets the nod for versatility. 

For me overall the 280 just checks all the boxes.   

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Thanks, direction I was leaning as well. I do like the option to push a heavier bullet.
PRC just seemed interesting with its ballistics (mainly energy at distance)  & supposedly impressive accuracy.

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Re: .280ai vs 6.5PRC
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2020, 09:11:29 AM »
The current PRC factory ammo choices are only eldx and eldm from hornady, though I'm sure more choices are on the way.
The ballistics are easy to pull the PRC away from the 280ai if you handload but not by that much. Factory ammo probably less or even.
Tough to beat the terminal performance of a 162 or 168 grn from the 280 and the extensive bullet choices give you more wiggle room than the PRC. That said I'm lovin the PRC so far. Better LR performance with 150 class loads and less wind call with very manageable recoil.
So the choice here is pretty clear to me.. ya gotta get both. So the real question is which one first  :dunno:



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Re: .280ai vs 6.5PRC
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2020, 09:16:34 AM »
The current PRC factory ammo choices are only eldx and eldm from hornady, though I'm sure more choices are on the way.
The ballistics are easy to pull the PRC away from the 280ai if you handload but not by that much. Factory ammo probably less or even.
Tough to beat the terminal performance of a 162 or 168 grn from the 280 and the extensive bullet choices give you more wiggle room than the PRC. That said I'm lovin the PRC so far. Better LR performance with 150 class loads and less wind call with very manageable recoil.
So the choice here is pretty clear to me.. ya gotta get both. So the real question is which one first  :dunno:

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All good points. Unfortunately.

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Re: .280ai vs 6.5PRC
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2020, 09:17:12 AM »
My boy has a 280ai being built at HCA that will run 168’s over 3000. Pretty sweet setup

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Re: .280ai vs 6.5PRC
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2020, 09:26:10 AM »
The current PRC factory ammo choices are only eldx and eldm from hornady, though I'm sure more choices are on the way.
The ballistics are easy to pull the PRC away from the 280ai if you handload but not by that much. Factory ammo probably less or even.
Tough to beat the terminal performance of a 162 or 168 grn from the 280 and the extensive bullet choices give you more wiggle room than the PRC. That said I'm lovin the PRC so far. Better LR performance with 150 class loads and less wind call with very manageable recoil.
So the choice here is pretty clear to me.. ya gotta get both. So the real question is which one first  :dunno:

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All good points. Unfortunately.

 :tup: just add a 26 nosler and your covered.

I'm PRC shopping right now and have been impressed with all the ballistics I've been looking at and how much energy the round carries down range.

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Re: .280ai vs 6.5PRC
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2020, 09:28:36 AM »
Nobody has mentioned it yet, but the 6.5 PRC is a TRUE short action caliber even  with the heavies seated way out.

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Re: .280ai vs 6.5PRC
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2020, 10:06:23 AM »
280AI has been around for a long time and is a proven accurate round.  The 168 Berger is a great bullet.  Peterson just came out with brass for 280’AI.   Because of the long neck, you can run 160-180 class bullets and still be seated correctly.   Gun smith I use has one and has sent me some pictures of 1.25”’groups at 600 yards with 168 Bergers going 2930 with RL 23.

 


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