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Traitor - Ryan Busse
« on: May 17, 2021, 04:07:17 PM »
Ryan Busse collected a paycheck from Kimber for 25 years as VP of Sales.

Now he will again try to profit off the firearm industry by slandering it and labeling the industry and 2A supporters as "radical extremists".

It gets even better when Busse calls 2A Supporters racists in the the book synopsis.

"But replacing self-imposed decency with rampant fear-mongering, racism, hardline conservative politics, massive profits from semi-automatic weapons sales, and McCarthyesque policing have driven Busse to do something few other gun executives have done: he's ending his 30-year career in the industry to tell its secrets."

Hard Pass for me.

It's probably worth noting that he's involved with Backcountry Hunters & Anglers and that he left Kimber to start up a PAC for Biden.  Look into the details of the .orgs you are supporting.
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Re: Traitor - Ryan Busse
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2021, 04:17:55 PM »
Smells like a duck...

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Re: Traitor - Ryan Busse
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2021, 04:21:00 PM »
Interesting. I almost want to grab a copy just to see what he has to say.

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Re: Traitor - Ryan Busse
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2021, 04:34:33 PM »
I guess the 1st amendment, like the 2nd is a right for every American.


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Re: Traitor - Ryan Busse
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2021, 04:58:14 PM »
Smells like a duck...
Yup. BHA board member...

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Re: Traitor - Ryan Busse
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2021, 08:09:14 PM »
But replacing self-imposed decency with rampant fear-mongering, racism, hardline conservative politics, massive profits from semi-automatic weapons sales, and McCarthyesque policing have driven Busse to do something few other gun executives have done: he's ending his 30-year career in the industry to tell its secrets

.... in a book that he will happily sell you


for the truth of course

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Re: Traitor - Ryan Busse
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2021, 10:01:31 PM »
I guess the 1st amendment, like the 2nd is a right for every American.

The defense of the 1st and 2nd Amendments are both interesting and appreciable. Truly.

But, at what point would you begin to feel uncomfortable at being very publicly and very wrongfully labeled a racist, or worse?

I'm asking for the rest of us that would just as soon flatten the son of a bitch's traitorous beak.
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Re: Traitor - Ryan Busse
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2021, 10:03:01 PM »
But replacing self-imposed decency with rampant fear-mongering, racism, hardline conservative politics, massive profits from semi-automatic weapons sales, and McCarthyesque policing have driven Busse to do something few other gun executives have done: he's ending his 30-year career in the industry to tell its secrets

.... in a book that he will happily sell you


for the truth of course

Oh, how I wish there was a "Like" button for comments such as this.  :tup:
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Re: Traitor - Ryan Busse
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2021, 01:56:29 PM »
Smells like a duck...
Yup. BHA board member...

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https://www.backcountryhunters.org/board_of_directors

Don't see him on the board link above....

BHA sticks to their mission: public lands, the preservation and access to them. BHA does not dip into gun rights just like you wouldn't expect NRA to stand up for public lands.

Busse's opinion on guns is his and not BHA's. Just like Romney and Cheney's opinions are theirs, not the GOP.

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Re: Traitor - Ryan Busse
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2021, 03:44:45 PM »
Smells like a duck...
Yup. BHA board member...

Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

https://www.backcountryhunters.org/board_of_directors

Don't see him on the board link above....

BHA sticks to their mission: public lands, the preservation and access to them. BHA does not dip into gun rights just like you wouldn't expect NRA to stand up for public lands.

Busse's opinion on guns is his and not BHA's. Just like Romney and Cheney's opinions are theirs, not the GOP.
He isn't anymore.  He was for years. As far as the rest of your statement. You can try to justify their actions or lack there of anyway you like. But I'm still done with them. Have been for a few years. Their top guys are not the kind of people I want representing me.

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Re: Traitor - Ryan Busse
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2021, 06:43:48 PM »
Interesting. I almost want to grab a copy just to see what he has to say.

The book isn't released yet and it's written by an industry insider and lifelong hunter.  Interesting to see the rabid right jump on it without reading it...but not surprising.  Cancel culture at its finest. :)

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Re: Traitor - Ryan Busse
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2021, 07:20:49 PM »
Smells like a duck...
Yup. BHA board member...

Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

https://www.backcountryhunters.org/board_of_directors

Don't see him on the board link above....

BHA sticks to their mission: public lands, the preservation and access to them. BHA does not dip into gun rights just like you wouldn't expect NRA to stand up for public lands.

Busse's opinion on guns is his and not BHA's. Just like Romney and Cheney's opinions are theirs, not the GOP.

I used to think BHA was a good one to support but after reading up on their lack of actual hunting advocacy, wildlife management opinions and for the support that they accept from anti hunting and anti 2A I’ll never give them another dollar.

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Re: Traitor - Ryan Busse
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2021, 09:53:06 AM »
Smells like a duck...
Yup. BHA board member...

Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

https://www.backcountryhunters.org/board_of_directors

Don't see him on the board link above....

BHA sticks to their mission: public lands, the preservation and access to them. BHA does not dip into gun rights just like you wouldn't expect NRA to stand up for public lands.

Busse's opinion on guns is his and not BHA's. Just like Romney and Cheney's opinions are theirs, not the GOP.
He isn't anymore.  He was for years. As far as the rest of your statement. You can try to justify their actions or lack there of anyway you like. But I'm still done with them. Have been for a few years. Their top guys are not the kind of people I want representing me.

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You don't want the top guys representing you because they are willing to reach across the aisle and work with other groups? They should only work with groups who share 100% the same values across the board. Hmm... sounds reasonable. Digging in and toeing the party line has been super productive in this great country recently... let's continue to believe that the "others" are the enemy on every topic and not be subjective.

What actions did BHA take or not take that have you fired up? Were you upset when their board in CA had a huge role in stopping the bear ban in CA? What about the work they have done in eastern states to allow hunting on Sundays? Work they are doing in Washington to add new access and hunting opportunity? Did they lead the charge on the LWCF - something that every single user of this forum benefits from?

Were you upset when the NRA didn't take a stand on the transfer of public lands? I didn't hear anything from them when CA bear ban was proposed. Are they involved in fighting the push to remove any hunting besides subsistence hunting in two units in AK?

 Damn green decoys...

 

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Re: Traitor - Ryan Busse
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2021, 09:55:40 AM »
Smells like a duck...
Yup. BHA board member...

Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

https://www.backcountryhunters.org/board_of_directors

Don't see him on the board link above....

BHA sticks to their mission: public lands, the preservation and access to them. BHA does not dip into gun rights just like you wouldn't expect NRA to stand up for public lands.

Busse's opinion on guns is his and not BHA's. Just like Romney and Cheney's opinions are theirs, not the GOP.

I used to think BHA was a good one to support but after reading up on their lack of actual hunting advocacy, wildlife management opinions and for the support that they accept from anti hunting and anti 2A I’ll never give them another dollar.

Outside of not being staunch, vocal supporters of the 2A (not their mission) and not wanting every wolf in North America dead, what issues do you have with their hunting advocacy and wildlife management?

Blanket statements are easy, nuance isn't.

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Re: Traitor - Ryan Busse
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2021, 10:54:36 AM »


Smells like a duck...
Yup. BHA board member...

Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

https://www.backcountryhunters.org/board_of_directors

Don't see him on the board link above....

BHA sticks to their mission: public lands, the preservation and access to them. BHA does not dip into gun rights just like you wouldn't expect NRA to stand up for public lands.

Busse's opinion on guns is his and not BHA's. Just like Romney and Cheney's opinions are theirs, not the GOP.
He isn't anymore.  He was for years. As far as the rest of your statement. You can try to justify their actions or lack there of anyway you like. But I'm still done with them. Have been for a few years. Their top guys are not the kind of people I want representing me.

Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

You don't want the top guys representing you because they are willing to reach across the aisle and work with other groups? They should only work with groups who share 100% the same values across the board. Hmm... sounds reasonable. Digging in and toeing the party line has been super productive in this great country recently... let's continue to believe that the "others" are the enemy on every topic and not be subjective.

What actions did BHA take or not take that have you fired up? Were you upset when their board in CA had a huge role in stopping the bear ban in CA? What about the work they have done in eastern states to allow hunting on Sundays? Work they are doing in Washington to add new access and hunting opportunity? Did they lead the charge on the LWCF - something that every single user of this forum benefits from?

Were you upset when the NRA didn't take a stand on the transfer of public lands? I didn't hear anything from them when CA bear ban was proposed. Are they involved in fighting the push to remove any hunting besides subsistence hunting in two units in AK?

 Damn green decoys...



They don't reach across the aisle. They are already on the other side of the aisle.

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