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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #435 on: January 21, 2022, 02:42:45 PM »
Are they gonna revote or what.
Should I buy my hunting license or permit.
Two birds in the Bush is always better than one in the hand-that way you can always go to the Bush and hunt another day .conservation=Better hunting.
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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #436 on: January 21, 2022, 02:44:32 PM »
Well that went better than expected honestly. Larry needs to go. His reasoning and lack of conviction are flawed and he has exceeded his term limit. Thorn burn was great as was baker and mcisaac. Now to pay attention and push hard to
Fill the remaining commissioners seats with pro hunters and fishers. Thatís the next step in this fight. Whatís more if anyone wants to come forward with a nominee for eastern seat please do and letís get started on that ASAP. You just know Lorna is gunna be crying to inslee about this so letís get moving now as well.

You you going to push hard?  Inslee appoints them

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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #437 on: January 21, 2022, 02:45:47 PM »
So 5 of the petitions were thrown out as unlawful since they called for a re-vote if I understood that correctly. The win today was that the Meateater/Blood Origins/Inland Wildlife Council/etc petition would be considered. What exactly does that mean if that petition is not specifically calling for a re-vote? Is that petition document available to the public?

They explain it pretty well on this podcast with Marie Neumiller from the INWWC. https://megaphone.link/WPCM6549762841
Basically it removes the loophole where the season has to pass by majority vote every year. If changes aren't passed by the commission things will go back to the previous years regulations. Won't do anything for 2022 but will keep this from happening down the road. That's how I understand it anyway.
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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #438 on: January 21, 2022, 02:57:31 PM »
Are they gonna revote or what.
Should I buy my hunting license or permit.


If we have a spring season it will be late and short.  Have to start back at square one.
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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #439 on: January 21, 2022, 03:01:32 PM »
Are they gonna revote or what.
Should I buy my hunting license or permit.


If we have a spring season it will be late and short.  Have to start back at square one.

The best hunting is the last two weeks anyhow.  I hope it gets reinstated....I would buy a tag / permit for a chance to hunt the last two weeks. 

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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #440 on: January 21, 2022, 03:02:37 PM »
Well that went better than expected honestly. Larry needs to go. His reasoning and lack of conviction are flawed and he has exceeded his term limit. Thorn burn was great as was baker and mcisaac. Now to pay attention and push hard to
Fill the remaining commissioners seats with pro hunters and fishers. Thatís the next step in this fight. Whatís more if anyone wants to come forward with a nominee for eastern seat please do and letís get started on that ASAP. You just know Lorna is gunna be crying to inslee about this so letís get moving now as well.

You you going to push hard?  Inslee appoints them

Exactly, the thought that Inslee is going to stuff the commission with hunters and fishermen is fantasy.  Larry hosed us, but I can almost guarantee he will be better than whoever his replacement is.

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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #441 on: January 21, 2022, 03:03:26 PM »
Are they gonna revote or what.
Should I buy my hunting license or permit.


If we have a spring season it will be late and short.  Have to start back at square one.
Thanks I'm gonna listen tomorrow,since I logged in to late today. I just finished the last meeting before this one.
Maybe next pay day I'll just buy my licences for the year and be ready.
Two birds in the Bush is always better than one in the hand-that way you can always go to the Bush and hunt another day .conservation=Better hunting.
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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #442 on: January 21, 2022, 03:07:53 PM »
So 5 of the petitions were thrown out as unlawful since they called for a re-vote if I understood that correctly. The win today was that the Meateater/Blood Origins/Inland Wildlife Council/etc petition would be considered. What exactly does that mean if that petition is not specifically calling for a re-vote? Is that petition document available to the public?
Changing the WAC to remove year so that each year they arenít voting on a spring bear season but rather permit totals.


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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #443 on: January 21, 2022, 03:08:24 PM »
Well that went better than expected honestly. Larry needs to go. His reasoning and lack of conviction are flawed and he has exceeded his term limit. Thorn burn was great as was baker and mcisaac. Now to pay attention and push hard to
Fill the remaining commissioners seats with pro hunters and fishers. Thatís the next step in this fight. Whatís more if anyone wants to come forward with a nominee for eastern seat please do and letís get started on that ASAP. You just know Lorna is gunna be crying to inslee about this so letís get moving now as well.

You you going to push hard?  Inslee appoints them

Yes by showing overwhelming support and pushing for certain people to be considered over others. Or you can just sit back and do nothing about it but cry afterwards. Choice is yours.
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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #444 on: January 21, 2022, 03:19:18 PM »
Is that petition document available to the public?

I got it from the meeting page, but this link should work. Its the 2nd or 3rd petition.

https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-01/Spring%20Bear%20Petitions%20-%20Allv2_0.pdf

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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #445 on: January 21, 2022, 03:21:41 PM »
So 5 of the petitions were thrown out as unlawful since they called for a re-vote if I understood that correctly. The win today was that the Meateater/Blood Origins/Inland Wildlife Council/etc petition would be considered. What exactly does that mean if that petition is not specifically calling for a re-vote? Is that petition document available to the public?
Changing the WAC to remove year so that each year they arenít voting on a spring bear season but rather permit totals.


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Ya was thinking the same,this whole pile of turd started cause all they was doing was reducing a handful of permits.
Then spring bear WW3 broke out.
Two birds in the Bush is always better than one in the hand-that way you can always go to the Bush and hunt another day .conservation=Better hunting.
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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #446 on: January 21, 2022, 03:42:12 PM »
Ahh so that's why it carried. Smart move by Inland/Meateat/et al. So the idea is, if this motion carries, the 2022 hunt is on and set to 2021 permit amounts. Moving forward, permit quotas would be the only thing they could change unless they went through all the proper procedures to remove the hunt entirely.

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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #447 on: January 21, 2022, 03:52:11 PM »
Ahh so that's why it carried. Smart move by Inland/Meateat/et al. So the idea is, if this motion carries, the 2022 hunt is on and set to 2021 permit amounts. Moving forward, permit quotas would be the only thing they could change unless they went through all the proper procedures to remove the hunt entirely.

That is not accurate. We still do not have a 2022 spring bear season. We are just back to step 1 of creating a 2022 spring bear season. Both of McIsaac's motions passed. His second motion starts the rule making process to have a 2022 spring bear season.

And know that even if the year is removed from the WAC so that there is a presumptive spring bear season and the number of permits is the only issue, that number could be zero. This fight won't be over even if the WAC is amended to remove the year.

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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #448 on: January 21, 2022, 03:56:05 PM »
Huh, guess I misunderstood that second motion then. Thought it was to change the timeline on when spring bear rulemaking occurred in the future. Which I guess the 2022 hunt is still future. Hard to read them the way they had them up on the screen there.

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Re: WDFW Spring Bear 2022 cancelled!
« Reply #449 on: January 21, 2022, 03:59:59 PM »
Iíve been writing lots of letters lately. Who again confirms commissioners? Need to vote smith off the island and also I think carpenter? And who are the new ones dimslee nominated?
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