Electric trucks ? No thank you

[haus]

Anybody ask themselves why government police and emergency vehicles have not gone electric yet?

Availability and cost? The 2024 Blazer EV with pursuit package is the first manufacturer built to patrol spec model to hit the market so far. Several agencies have Teslas on the road, but those are field modified units.

[LDennis24]

I know not everyone has Tiktok but this guy quickly throws out numbers on realistic demands of having electric trucks on the road delivering commodities etc.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRvxDeKq/

[ducks4days]

https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck

Cybertruck prices and specs have been released. 3 different models at $60k, $80k and $100k

[Humptulips]

Don't look much like a truck to me. Where do I stack a load of wood?

[Alchase]

Don't look much like a truck to me. Where do I stack a load of wood?

It has a bed!

But daaaaaaamn! It is ugly!
Looks like something my kid would have drawn with crayons.

[jackelope]

Don't look much like a truck to me. Where do I stack a load of wood?

[Humptulips]

Still don't see much room for firewood. Probably plenty of room for your Nordstrom purchases though.

[jackelope]

Still don't see much room for firewood. Probably plenty of room for your Nordstrom purchases though.

How many people who are going to buy a Cybertruck do you think are concerned with its ability to haul a load of firewood? How much firewood can you haul in an F150 with a 5.5’ bed? How many of those have been sold worldwide over the last… I think 20 years they’ve existed?
I’m not a proponent of the cyber truck. It’s kind of ridiculous and I’ll be shocked if it’s a success,  but people aren’t going to buy it for its ability to haul firewood.

For the record though, it’s got a 6’ long bed that’s 4’ wide, 67 cubic feet of volume and has a 2500 pound payload, so it’ll haul the same load of firewood that most of your full sized half ton trucks will. The 6.5’ bed on an F150 has 62.3 cubic feet of volume for comparison.

[Sandberm]

I didnt want to start a new thread but this is one I haven't heard of before. Parking garages in New York may not be able to handle the weight of EV's.

I was watching one of the latest South Main Auto videos and Eric said his brother took him into the city for a fancy dinner. They had to go to 4 parking garages before they found one that could fit their 2500 pickup. But he also mentioned that they wouldn't accept EV's. Curious on that i did an internet search and read about a parking garage that fell under too much weight, and thus the reason....I am guessing...is why some parking garages will not accept the heavier EV's. Interesting.

https://nypost.com/2023/04/19/electric-vehicles-could-put-pressure-on-parking-garages/

"...Chris Whapples, a structural engineer and consultant working on new regulations for multi-story garages in the UK, said officials need to understand how the rise in EVs will affect current car parks.

“I don’t want to be too alarmist, but there definitely is the potential for some of the early car parks in poor condition to collapse,” Whapples told The Telegraph.

“Operators need to be aware of electric vehicle weights, and get their car parks assessed from a strength point of view, and decide if they need to limit weight.”

The warning came less than two weeks before Tuesday’s deadly collapse at the NYC parking garage, which reportedly had active violations dating back to 2003..."

[Bob33]

I don't imagine Inslee would do this with our ferries...

https://ctif.org/news/norwegian-shipping-company-bans-electric-cars-board-classic-ferry-route

The Norwegian shipping company Havila Kystruten will no longer allow electric cars on board its ships, according to Norwegian Television NRK. The consequences of an electric car fire are considered too severe, states the company.
...
"Toxic gases are released"
After just over a year in scheduled traffic, the shipping company Havilia is now making changes to its regulations. Going forward,  electric cars, hybrid cars and also hydrogen cars will not be allowed on board.

Risk analysis found lithium batteries too risky onboard

The decision was made after an external risk analysis was made on behalf of the company. What the risk analysis found was that fires in electric cars are considered more difficult to extinguish than fires in cars powered by petrol and diesel.

"An electric car fire gets very hot, and there may be a risk of explosion where toxic gases will be released. This can mean that you have to evacuate the ship immediately and in the worst case you can have a total breakdown of the ship, says Lasse A. Vangstein who is in charge of communications at Havila Kystruten to NRK.
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Here's an interesting video:

[Boss .300 winmag]

I don't imagine Inslee would do this with our ferries...

https://ctif.org/news/norwegian-shipping-company-bans-electric-cars-board-classic-ferry-route

The Norwegian shipping company Havila Kystruten will no longer allow electric cars on board its ships, according to Norwegian Television NRK. The consequences of an electric car fire are considered too severe, states the company.
...
"Toxic gases are released"
After just over a year in scheduled traffic, the shipping company Havilia is now making changes to its regulations. Going forward,  electric cars, hybrid cars and also hydrogen cars will not be allowed on board.

Risk analysis found lithium batteries too risky onboard

The decision was made after an external risk analysis was made on behalf of the company. What the risk analysis found was that fires in electric cars are considered more difficult to extinguish than fires in cars powered by petrol and diesel.

"An electric car fire gets very hot, and there may be a risk of explosion where toxic gases will be released. This can mean that you have to evacuate the ship immediately and in the worst case you can have a total breakdown of the ship, says Lasse A. Vangstein who is in charge of communications at Havila Kystruten to NRK.
...
Here's an interesting video:

Good target for a Navy sinkex.😉

[jackelope]

Joe Rogan shoots arrow at Elon’s cyber truck.

[Humptulips]

I often worry about taking an arrow through the door when I am out cutting wood.

[salmosalar]

The big problem is we look at it in terms of isolation.  It's not EV or not, it's EV or oil for the base form of energy for transportation.  So to talk about lithium mining without a similar discussion and comparison to the human rights of entire countries, say Saudi Arabia, say Iran, say Russia is not intellectually honest.

There are people pushing EV for the money.  There have been people pushing oil for money for over 200 years.  Nothing changes in business and politics.

What source of energy would most benefit our country?  I don't think you can argue for oil.  It's a global commodity price controlled by people that hate us.  Technology, efficiency, performance, whatever doesn't even matter, you can't ultimately win in that system with those rules.

Once we are honest about this, it's more of a question of how to make the transition happen and there is plenty of space there to argue.

Well said.

[Boss .300 winmag]

I often worry about taking an arrow through the door when I am out cutting wood.

Well it’s the perfect truck for you Humptulips.👍