collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: check those muzzy loads don't assume they are dry  (Read 12439 times)

Offline IFunk

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hunter
  • ***
  • Join Date: Mar 2019
  • Posts: 114
  • Location: Seattle
  • Groups: BHA, TBOW
Re: check those muzzy loads don't assume they are dry
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2023, 02:57:06 PM »
I haven't hunted many dry days with my Knight BH, but I've managed to always keep the powder dry.  It's never failed to go boom even months later.   I use an ample amount of the blue Knight breach plug grease(don't go stingy) and always wrap the end of the barrel with electrical tape.

Offline JakeLand

  • WA State Trappers Association
  • Trade Count: (+34)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Oct 2011
  • Posts: 4341
  • Location: Wet side
Re: check those muzzy loads don't assume they are dry
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2023, 05:25:53 PM »
I hunted the coast and dealt with all the rain , I hand carry my muzzy ( knight ultra light with a bare 209 conversion) and tape over the barrel and I’ve had zero issues in the rain . I also hunt the late muzzy season for blacktail in the snow and still zero issues

Offline Westside88

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2013
  • Posts: 1149
  • Location: Western Wa
Re: check those muzzy loads don't assume they are dry
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2023, 06:45:50 PM »
Westside88- I see Western WA as your location so I'm guessing you hunted through those 2 days just buckets on and off???  This was my first year muzzy hunting and I was worried about mine as well.  Thankfully mine went boom on the last day.  Knight UL with full plastic jacket primer system and electrical tape over the barrel.  Carried it muzzle up just slung over my shoulder most those days.  Sometimes when it was really pouring I move it to hand carry with a hand over the breach hoping it would help.

Were you using the FPJ deal on yours?  Just curious as I'm trying to learn as much as I can about what happened hoping I don't do it as well.  I've used Eberlstock packs in the past as well so I'm familiar with the setup.  I'm wondering if water ran down that sleeve on the pack and just sat on the back of the breech plug seeping it's way in?

Thanks for sharing your experience so others can learn!

I run loose triple 7 and a #11 cap. It was dry under the nipple and the cap itself went off when I tried it later. I put a new one on every time I take them off and save the old for practice. I think you’re probably correct that the pack was likely so wet that it was dripping water into a vulnerable place. In the future I’ll cover the barrel and breach and will probably be fine. I was in the foothills of the Olympics and those couple days were WET!

Offline craigapphunt

  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Hunter
  • ***
  • Join Date: Jul 2015
  • Posts: 158
  • Location: centralia, wa
Re: check those muzzy loads don't assume they are dry
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2023, 09:21:39 PM »
Used a solo hunter rifle cover over my muzzleloader this season and got dumped on pretty hard for a few days. I still taped the muzzle and as always thread taped the breach plug. Rifle always looked pretty darn dry at the end of the day though I haven't pulled the breach plug yet to see what the powder actually looks like.

Offline Westside88

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2013
  • Posts: 1149
  • Location: Western Wa
Re: check those muzzy loads don't assume they are dry
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2023, 10:43:52 AM »
Used a solo hunter rifle cover over my muzzleloader this season and got dumped on pretty hard for a few days. I still taped the muzzle and as always thread taped the breach plug. Rifle always looked pretty darn dry at the end of the day though I haven't pulled the breach plug yet to see what the powder actually looks like.
Nice tip, I’ll have to check that out. Please let us know what you discover

Offline Buck86

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Tracker
  • **
  • Join Date: Sep 2016
  • Posts: 64
  • Location: Tumwater
    • No
  • Groups: NRA
Re: check those muzzy loads don't assume they are dry
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2023, 10:46:57 AM »
I have hunted in some very wet Oly Peninsula late season weather with my muzz and have never had that issue. I use electrical tape on my muzzle, and I Still use #11 percussion caps on my bighorn and my Disc Extreme.  If you are using 29 primers depending on how those sit in your muzz there is more than enough room to get water in and around them.  Thanks to Sabotloader, I have a hunting lifetime supply of little silicone cap covers that I use when it is wet out.

Online pd

  • Trade Count: (+7)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2012
  • Posts: 2483
  • Location: Seattle?
Re: check those muzzy loads don't assume they are dry
« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2023, 02:48:30 PM »
I have hunted in some very wet Oly Peninsula late season weather with my muzz and have never had that issue. I use electrical tape on my muzzle, and I Still use #11 percussion caps on my bighorn and my Disc Extreme.  If you are using 29 primers depending on how those sit in your muzz there is more than enough room to get water in and around them. Thanks to Sabotloader, I have a hunting lifetime supply of little silicone cap covers that I use when it is wet out.

Same here.  SabotLoader is Da Man.
Si vis pacem, para bellum

Offline craigapphunt

  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Hunter
  • ***
  • Join Date: Jul 2015
  • Posts: 158
  • Location: centralia, wa
Re: check those muzzy loads don't assume they are dry
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2023, 05:25:13 AM »
Used a solo hunter rifle cover over my muzzleloader this season and got dumped on pretty hard for a few days. I still taped the muzzle and as always thread taped the breach plug. Rifle always looked pretty darn dry at the end of the day though I haven't pulled the breach plug yet to see what the powder actually looks like.
Nice tip, I’ll have to check that out. Please let us know what you discover

Will do

Offline craigapphunt

  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Hunter
  • ***
  • Join Date: Jul 2015
  • Posts: 158
  • Location: centralia, wa
Re: check those muzzy loads don't assume they are dry
« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2023, 05:26:52 PM »
Used a solo hunter rifle cover over my muzzleloader this season and got dumped on pretty hard for a few days. I still taped the muzzle and as always thread taped the breach plug. Rifle always looked pretty darn dry at the end of the day though I haven't pulled the breach plug yet to see what the powder actually looks like.
Nice tip, I’ll have to check that out. Please let us know what you discover

Will do

Doesn't get any better then that no sign of moisture what so ever

Offline dilleytech

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2014
  • Posts: 1629
  • Location: Columbia gorge washington
Re: check those muzzy loads don't assume they are dry
« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2023, 01:27:43 PM »
I haven’t had this happen in my life yet. Gun always goes bang but I always electrical tape all my barrels and if it’s raining I tie a latex glove around the breach and only use #11 caps for that tight seal. i don’t shoot it at the end of the day but usually before the next season after sitting loaded in the safe all year.

Offline Soady

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Scout
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jul 2013
  • Posts: 329
  • Location: Outside
Re: check those muzzy loads don't assume they are dry
« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2023, 03:48:45 PM »
I haven't hunted many dry days with my Knight BH, but I've managed to always keep the powder dry.  It's never failed to go boom even months later.   I use an ample amount of the blue Knight breach plug grease(don't go stingy) and always wrap the end of the barrel with electrical tape.

 :yeah:
Exactly what I do. 3M Scotch 33 electrical tape in a cross pattern on the muzzle and with one final wrap around the end to seal the cross. Always lots of plug lube on the breech plug. Using a modern 209 primer and Knight FPJ red plastic primer holder. Always goes boom. Currently planning on hunting the rain storm coming in on Friday with this method.

Whatever........

Offline lokidog

  • Trade Count: (+6)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Mar 2009
  • Posts: 15186
  • Location: Sultan/Wisconsin
Re: check those muzzy loads don't assume they are dry
« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2023, 08:41:59 PM »
Dont know why you worry about the barrel ? If water gets by the sabot then something is wrong......Thats a tight seal thik about it  :o

It's actually not a tight seal until the pressure of the powder burning pushes it forward and flairs the sabot into the rifling.  :dunno:

Offline dilleytech

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2014
  • Posts: 1629
  • Location: Columbia gorge washington
Re: check those muzzy loads don't assume they are dry
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2023, 07:54:15 AM »
I hunted probably 5-6 days in heavy rain this year with my muzzy. Taped barrel, #11 caps and a latex glove covering the breach while hunting. I was out Wednesday in a down pour hunted daylight to just before dark. I’ll admit I was starting to wonder if my gun had survived all the weather it had seen and was planning to shoot it at the end of the day. Well the end of the day ended up being on a small heard of elk with a cow tag in pocket and as expected the gun went boom when it needed to. As Always my trusty knight bighorn and #11 cap set up with loose pyrodex powder didn’t let me down.

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

What does "Bang Flop" mean to you??? by C-Money
[Today at 06:07:15 AM]


High Buck Hunt Pack Dump by Utah
[Today at 05:09:51 AM]


Bergara vs fierce by time2hunt
[Today at 03:44:09 AM]


Fall Turkey by Russ McDonald
[Today at 03:14:22 AM]


"GO" 2024 H-W 14th Annual Christmas Gift Exchange by Russ McDonald
[Today at 02:13:39 AM]


Can Am defender by 2MANY
[Yesterday at 11:34:22 PM]


2024 Waterfowl Season by Wetwoodshunter
[Yesterday at 10:14:54 PM]


Duck Hunting Southwestern WA by Mukeymadness123
[Yesterday at 08:49:14 PM]


WA’s ban on high-capacity gun magazines ruled unconstitutional by TriggerMike
[Yesterday at 08:43:32 PM]


Old rifles and Blacktails by TitusFord
[Yesterday at 08:28:19 PM]


2024 deer. Let’s see um! by Boss .300 winmag
[Yesterday at 08:27:23 PM]


WSTA Winter Workshop December 6-8th by Cylvertip
[Yesterday at 07:55:55 PM]


Bearpaw Season 2024 by Rainier10
[Yesterday at 05:25:15 PM]


What’s your mule deer caliber by jackelope
[Yesterday at 05:10:45 PM]


Future Elk Camp Partners by KimberMAC
[Yesterday at 05:06:46 PM]


Canning Trout by HarboritE
[Yesterday at 04:44:04 PM]


Trapping Insurance??? by lewy
[Yesterday at 04:24:08 PM]


Kodiak vs Rancher by Ridgeratt
[Yesterday at 04:22:01 PM]


Drizzle of honey on venison jerky? by Alchase
[Yesterday at 03:23:18 PM]


Good General Purpose Fillet Knife. by Boss .300 winmag
[Yesterday at 01:39:30 PM]

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2024, SimplePortal