More special privileges

[pianoman9701]

I support wood carved bows and chiseled broadheads mounted on a mustang!

Right after you navigate the roadless areas on your covered wagon and musket?

We All evolve and adapt to perpetuate what we value. 

The difference is we have rules and biologists that “try” to manage and make scientific decisions. They have no rules, and no care about what they’re doing.

That's a broad and inaccurate statement. As a matter of fact, several tribes are hunting wolves where our own WDFW has failed to do so, to help mule deer and elk populations for all of us, especially in the the NE corner. Several tribes have initiated projects which enhance and recover salmon populations - the Quinault and Lummi to name only two of many. I personally know tribal members who hunt according to existing regulations. No care about what they're doing? Sorry, that comment holds zero credibility. I'll admit that some natives will take great advantage of their hunting rights. And will also admit there are plenty of non-native poachers in this state doing the same thing. Clean up your own backyard before examining your neighbor's.

I understand your argument for those tribes. But this article and what we’re talking about doesn’t pertain to those tribes one bit. It’s about 1 tribe, and they don’t care. I live here, I see it on the daily. If you don’t live where this is taking place you truly cannot grasp the impact it’s having.

Tbar, lets not forget that this particular tribe (sovereign nation) does not have to license their vehicles in WA ST.....therefore not paying their share to maintain OUR public roadways they utilize (aka your "Right after you navigate the roadless areas on your covered wagon and musket? " comment. ) Maybe they should not be allowed to drive on State owned roadways....... at all!

Treat others as you would like to be treated......When one is allowed special treatment, but wants equality, that's where the issue is 

The Yakama Treaty of 1855 has been upheld by the SCOTUS in 2019 that gives the rights to them to not have to pay taxes to travel on WA roads, including registration. If you have a problem with the treaty, your problem is with Congress and President Pierce, not the Yakama nation.

[Jake Dogfish]

Maybe someday we all can play by the same rules, “in common with”, yeah right.

 

They are buying up the politicians and the land.  Wdfw does whatever they ask.  The rest of us are second class citizens.

[NOCK NOCK]

I support wood carved bows and chiseled broadheads mounted on a mustang!

Right after you navigate the roadless areas on your covered wagon and musket?

We All evolve and adapt to perpetuate what we value. 

The difference is we have rules and biologists that “try” to manage and make scientific decisions. They have no rules, and no care about what they’re doing.

That's a broad and inaccurate statement. As a matter of fact, several tribes are hunting wolves where our own WDFW has failed to do so, to help mule deer and elk populations for all of us, especially in the the NE corner. Several tribes have initiated projects which enhance and recover salmon populations - the Quinault and Lummi to name only two of many. I personally know tribal members who hunt according to existing regulations. No care about what they're doing? Sorry, that comment holds zero credibility. I'll admit that some natives will take great advantage of their hunting rights. And will also admit there are plenty of non-native poachers in this state doing the same thing. Clean up your own backyard before examining your neighbor's.

I understand your argument for those tribes. But this article and what we’re talking about doesn’t pertain to those tribes one bit. It’s about 1 tribe, and they don’t care. I live here, I see it on the daily. If you don’t live where this is taking place you truly cannot grasp the impact it’s having.

Tbar, lets not forget that this particular tribe (sovereign nation) does not have to license their vehicles in WA ST.....therefore not paying their share to maintain OUR public roadways they utilize (aka your "Right after you navigate the roadless areas on your covered wagon and musket? " comment. ) Maybe they should not be allowed to drive on State owned roadways....... at all!

Treat others as you would like to be treated......When one is allowed special treatment, but wants equality, that's where the issue is 

The Yakama Treaty of 1855 has been upheld by the SCOTUS in 2019 that gives the rights to them to not have to pay taxes to travel on WA roads, including registration. If you have a problem with the treaty, your problem is with Congress and President Pierce, not the Yakama nation.

1. There are many things in this world that are legal, or folks have a "right" to do..........many times these things are against most folks idea of being correct/morals/ethics. 

2. I have zero issue with what happened in 1855. How could I have a beef with folks who made decisions they felt were correct at THAT TIME.........long before my great great grandparents were around?

The only folks I have a beef with are in my current timeline, and over-exploit their needs, AND, those who can put a stop to it but seem to turn a blind eye!!!

Again, When one is allowed special treatment, but wants equality, that's where the issue is. Treat and do unto others as you would like to be treated.  Simple.

PS, Did they have taxes on roads in 1855?

[trophyhunt]

Another thing that chaps my hide, since it’s indigenous people month or whatever they call it, you see all these posts about how the land was stolen. That’s a bunch of BS, we all know that the natives stole each other’s land, raped, pillage and murdered each other for how many Thousands of years? So the white man was the last, so-called last, to take the land and that makes us the bad guys. I don’t believe we will be the last to “take” the land, the natives are doing a good job at buying it back. Especially the mucks.

[Buzzsaw461]

Another thing that chaps my hide, since it’s indigenous people month or whatever they call it, you see all these posts about how the land was stolen. That’s a bunch of BS, we all know that the natives stole each other’s land, raped, pillage and murdered each other for how many Thousands of years? So the white man was the last, so-called last, to take the land and that makes us the bad guys. I don’t believe we will be the last to “take” the land, the natives are doing a good job at buying it back. Especially the mucks.

Pretty much sums it up.

[time2hunt]

I support wood carved bows and chiseled broadheads mounted on a mustang!

Right after you navigate the roadless areas on your covered wagon and musket?

We All evolve and adapt to perpetuate what we value. 

The difference is we have rules and biologists that “try” to manage and make scientific decisions. They have no rules, and no care about what they’re doing.

That's a broad and inaccurate statement. As a matter of fact, several tribes are hunting wolves where our own WDFW has failed to do so, to help mule deer and elk populations for all of us, especially in the the NE corner. Several tribes have initiated projects which enhance and recover salmon populations - the Quinault and Lummi to name only two of many. I personally know tribal members who hunt according to existing regulations. No care about what they're doing? Sorry, that comment holds zero credibility. I'll admit that some natives will take great advantage of their hunting rights. And will also admit there are plenty of non-native poachers in this state doing the same thing. Clean up your own backyard before examining your neighbor's.

I understand your argument for those tribes. But this article and what we’re talking about doesn’t pertain to those tribes one bit. It’s about 1 tribe, and they don’t care. I live here, I see it on the daily. If you don’t live where this is taking place you truly cannot grasp the impact it’s having.

Tbar, lets not forget that this particular tribe (sovereign nation) does not have to license their vehicles in WA ST.....therefore not paying their share to maintain OUR public roadways they utilize (aka your "Right after you navigate the roadless areas on your covered wagon and musket? " comment. ) Maybe they should not be allowed to drive on State owned roadways....... at all!

Treat others as you would like to be treated......When one is allowed special treatment, but wants equality, that's where the issue is 

The Yakama Treaty of 1855 has been upheld by the SCOTUS in 2019 that gives the rights to them to not have to pay taxes to travel on WA roads, including registration. If you have a problem with the treaty, your problem is with Congress and President Pierce, not the Yakama nation.

Quit drinking the woke cool aid


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[pianoman9701]

I support wood carved bows and chiseled broadheads mounted on a mustang!

Right after you navigate the roadless areas on your covered wagon and musket?

We All evolve and adapt to perpetuate what we value. 

The difference is we have rules and biologists that “try” to manage and make scientific decisions. They have no rules, and no care about what they’re doing.

That's a broad and inaccurate statement. As a matter of fact, several tribes are hunting wolves where our own WDFW has failed to do so, to help mule deer and elk populations for all of us, especially in the the NE corner. Several tribes have initiated projects which enhance and recover salmon populations - the Quinault and Lummi to name only two of many. I personally know tribal members who hunt according to existing regulations. No care about what they're doing? Sorry, that comment holds zero credibility. I'll admit that some natives will take great advantage of their hunting rights. And will also admit there are plenty of non-native poachers in this state doing the same thing. Clean up your own backyard before examining your neighbor's.

I understand your argument for those tribes. But this article and what we’re talking about doesn’t pertain to those tribes one bit. It’s about 1 tribe, and they don’t care. I live here, I see it on the daily. If you don’t live where this is taking place you truly cannot grasp the impact it’s having.

Tbar, lets not forget that this particular tribe (sovereign nation) does not have to license their vehicles in WA ST.....therefore not paying their share to maintain OUR public roadways they utilize (aka your "Right after you navigate the roadless areas on your covered wagon and musket? " comment. ) Maybe they should not be allowed to drive on State owned roadways....... at all!

Treat others as you would like to be treated......When one is allowed special treatment, but wants equality, that's where the issue is 

The Yakama Treaty of 1855 has been upheld by the SCOTUS in 2019 that gives the rights to them to not have to pay taxes to travel on WA roads, including registration. If you have a problem with the treaty, your problem is with Congress and President Pierce, not the Yakama nation.

Quit drinking the woke cool aid


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Ha! I'm as far from woke as one can get. How about engaging in a respectful discourse instead of slinging ignorant jabs? That's one of the problems with threads like this. Were we speaking face-to-face, your tone would likely be more civil. But in here, you're a keyboard warrior. Try to remember we're all fellow hunters here...even the natives who participate.

[Odell]

At some point, we need a federal definition on who qualifies for treaty rights. Tribes alone should not be able to define this when it comes to accessing treaty rights.

[Whitefoot]

 

At some point, we need a federal definition on who qualifies for treaty rights. Tribes alone should not be able to define this when it comes to accessing treaty rights.

[Whitefoot]

I support wood carved bows and chiseled broadheads mounted on a mustang!

Right after you navigate the roadless areas on your covered wagon and musket?

We All evolve and adapt to perpetuate what we value. 

The difference is we have rules and biologists that “try” to manage and make scientific decisions. They have no rules, and no care about what they’re doing.

That's a broad and inaccurate statement. As a matter of fact, several tribes are hunting wolves where our own WDFW has failed to do so, to help mule deer and elk populations for all of us, especially in the the NE corner. Several tribes have initiated projects which enhance and recover salmon populations - the Quinault and Lummi to name only two of many. I personally know tribal members who hunt according to existing regulations. No care about what they're doing? Sorry, that comment holds zero credibility. I'll admit that some natives will take great advantage of their hunting rights. And will also admit there are plenty of non-native poachers in this state doing the same thing. Clean up your own backyard before examining your neighbor's.

I understand your argument for those tribes. But this article and what we’re talking about doesn’t pertain to those tribes one bit. It’s about 1 tribe, and they don’t care. I live here, I see it on the daily. If you don’t live where this is taking place you truly cannot grasp the impact it’s having.

Tbar, lets not forget that this particular tribe (sovereign nation) does not have to license their vehicles in WA ST.....therefore not paying their share to maintain OUR public roadways they utilize (aka your "Right after you navigate the roadless areas on your covered wagon and musket? " comment. ) Maybe they should not be allowed to drive on State owned roadways....... at all!

Treat others as you would like to be treated......When one is allowed special treatment, but wants equality, that's where the issue is 

The Yakama Treaty of 1855 has been upheld by the SCOTUS in 2019 that gives the rights to them to not have to pay taxes to travel on WA roads, including registration. If you have a problem with the treaty, your problem is with Congress and President Pierce, not the Yakama nation.

1. There are many things in this world that are legal, or folks have a "right" to do..........many times these things are against most folks idea of being correct/morals/ethics. 

2. I have zero issue with what happened in 1855. How could I have a beef with folks who made decisions they felt were correct at THAT TIME.........long before my great great grandparents were around?

The only folks I have a beef with are in my current timeline, and over-exploit their needs, AND, those who can put a stop to it but seem to turn a blind eye!!!

Again, When one is allowed special treatment, but wants equality, that's where the issue is. Treat and do unto others as you would like to be treated.  Simple.

PS, Did they have taxes on roads in 1855?

Special treatment???

[Whitefoot]

Maybe someday we all can play by the same rules, “in common with”, yeah right.

lol, Never will happen Jerry.

[Odell]

At some point, we need a federal definition on who qualifies for treaty rights. Tribes alone should not be able to define this when it comes to accessing treaty rights.

You laugh because you know it's wrong. You can define your community however you want, but this is a treaty between two parties.

[Whitefoot]

At some point, we need a federal definition on who qualifies for treaty rights. Tribes alone should not be able to define this when it comes to accessing treaty rights.

You laugh because you know it's wrong. You can define your community however you want, but this is a treaty between two parties.

I laugh because you guys crack me up!!!  lol

[time2hunt]

I support wood carved bows and chiseled broadheads mounted on a mustang!

Right after you navigate the roadless areas on your covered wagon and musket?

We All evolve and adapt to perpetuate what we value. 

The difference is we have rules and biologists that “try” to manage and make scientific decisions. They have no rules, and no care about what they’re doing.

That's a broad and inaccurate statement. As a matter of fact, several tribes are hunting wolves where our own WDFW has failed to do so, to help mule deer and elk populations for all of us, especially in the the NE corner. Several tribes have initiated projects which enhance and recover salmon populations - the Quinault and Lummi to name only two of many. I personally know tribal members who hunt according to existing regulations. No care about what they're doing? Sorry, that comment holds zero credibility. I'll admit that some natives will take great advantage of their hunting rights. And will also admit there are plenty of non-native poachers in this state doing the same thing. Clean up your own backyard before examining your neighbor's.

I understand your argument for those tribes. But this article and what we’re talking about doesn’t pertain to those tribes one bit. It’s about 1 tribe, and they don’t care. I live here, I see it on the daily. If you don’t live where this is taking place you truly cannot grasp the impact it’s having.

Tbar, lets not forget that this particular tribe (sovereign nation) does not have to license their vehicles in WA ST.....therefore not paying their share to maintain OUR public roadways they utilize (aka your "Right after you navigate the roadless areas on your covered wagon and musket? " comment. ) Maybe they should not be allowed to drive on State owned roadways....... at all!

Treat others as you would like to be treated......When one is allowed special treatment, but wants equality, that's where the issue is 

The Yakama Treaty of 1855 has been upheld by the SCOTUS in 2019 that gives the rights to them to not have to pay taxes to travel on WA roads, including registration. If you have a problem with the treaty, your problem is with Congress and President Pierce, not the Yakama nation.

Quit drinking the woke cool aid


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Ha! I'm as far from woke as one can get. How about engaging in a respectful discourse instead of slinging ignorant jabs? That's one of the problems with threads like this. Were we speaking face-to-face, your tone would likely be more civil. But in here, you're a keyboard warrior. Try to remember we're all fellow hunters here...even the natives who participate.

It would be great to have a face-to-face or a normal conversation when it comes to treaty and tribal Hunting, but unfortunately, there’s a few bad apples one of them that’s on the site right now that takes a advantage and abuses the 1855 treaty rights to all extent. when people that don’t live in Kittitas or Yakima county  and  don’t get to sees the abuse and then tries to defend them it’s just hard to take anyone serious.


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