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Oregon Wolf Poisonings
« on: May 17, 2024, 03:08:05 PM »
19 wolves have been poisoned in Oregon since 2015. ODFW just released the news of the latest three killed. Warnings, rewards, and details of other wildlife killed are included. I've not heard that anyone has been arrested in any of the poisonings.
https://www.dfw.state.or.us/news/2024/05_May/051624.asp

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Re: Oregon Wolf Poisonings
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2024, 03:16:47 PM »
Oh no.........
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Re: Oregon Wolf Poisonings
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2024, 03:56:38 PM »
Any guesses on what they're using for poison?

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Re: Oregon Wolf Poisonings
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2024, 04:19:51 PM »
DDT.....carbofuran.....rural Cali ranchers used to hang old tires on fences indicating that poison was in use.....then the connection with unviable eagle and hawk eggs was made and they were banned. Target one animal and you also get a hit on the food chain.

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Re: Oregon Wolf Poisonings
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2024, 04:32:27 PM »
Hmm, that’s too bad…. 
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Re: Oregon Wolf Poisonings
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2024, 06:05:20 PM »
Boy oh boy, isn’t that just a shame. Shute would suck if people started poisoning the wolves here in Washington…wink wink nod nod :chuckle:
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Re: Oregon Wolf Poisonings
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2024, 08:34:20 PM »
DDT doesn't kill animals!  :chuckle: I have a can of it in my shed. I met an old man who said it's great for getting rid of lice and they used to put it in the kids hair! It has detrimental effects on amphibians and insects. It was found to cause eggs to become unviable as well. It doesn't kill any mammals that I ever heard of. The stuff I have is for treating cattle. The can is empty now.

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Re: Oregon Wolf Poisonings
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2024, 08:36:24 PM »
I would rather people just shot them and left them laying. Not the torture and agony poisoning causes.

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Re: Oregon Wolf Poisonings
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2024, 06:40:41 AM »
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Re: Oregon Wolf Poisonings
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2024, 09:37:37 AM »
DDT doesn't kill animals!  :chuckle: I have a can of it in my shed. I met an old man who said it's great for getting rid of lice and they used to put it in the kids hair! It has detrimental effects on amphibians and insects. It was found to cause eggs to become unviable as well. It doesn't kill any mammals that I ever heard of. The stuff I have is for treating cattle. The can is empty now.

The LD50 for DDT is about 1,000 mg/ kg. So it certainly can kill an animal. I would not say that it is super acutely toxic to mammals but it is poinsonous by most standards. It's similar in acute toxicity to advil.

It has chronic effects and is very slow to break down in the environment. It bioaccumulates in fat. It has been shown to have reproductive effects. So just because it does not kill efficiently and quickly does not mean that it is not a threat to human health or mammal health or the health of any species.

I have a hard time seeing why anyone would use it to kill a mammal though. There are a whole lot of more effective ways to poison a mammal that is for sure.

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Re: Oregon Wolf Poisonings
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2024, 11:30:09 AM »
DDT doesn't kill animals!  :chuckle: I have a can of it in my shed. I met an old man who said it's great for getting rid of lice and they used to put it in the kids hair! It has detrimental effects on amphibians and insects. It was found to cause eggs to become unviable as well. It doesn't kill any mammals that I ever heard of. The stuff I have is for treating cattle. The can is empty now.

The LD50 for DDT is about 1,000 mg/ kg. So it certainly can kill an animal. I would not say that it is super acutely toxic to mammals but it is poinsonous by most standards. It's similar in acute toxicity to advil.

It has chronic effects and is very slow to break down in the environment. It bioaccumulates in fat. It has been shown to have reproductive effects. So just because it does not kill efficiently and quickly does not mean that it is not a threat to human health or mammal health or the health of any species.

I have a hard time seeing why anyone would use it to kill a mammal though. There are a whole lot of more effective ways to poison a mammal that is for sure.

Right! Thats basically what I meant.  You would have to force feed it to the wolf to kill it! There's a can of cyanide in the shed at an old farm by my brothers. That would do it alot quicker!

This is the most likely scenario to me...
After banning M-44 use in Oregon there are probably some sitting around and somebody bought some and put them to use somewhere.  But like the report states. You could possibly kill unintended targets with them. This is from the anti's website.

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Re: Oregon Wolf Poisonings
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2024, 11:31:53 AM »
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Re: Oregon Wolf Poisonings
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2024, 01:56:54 PM »
What a shame. What a loss. Kumbaya.
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Re: Oregon Wolf Poisonings
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2024, 01:40:09 PM »
Having worked in the hazardous waste field, I can tell you that there are a lot of poisons including sodium or potasium cyanide that are out there. It is not all that difficult to get your hands on some really deadly poisons.

 


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