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Re: What does "Bang Flop" mean to you???
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2024, 06:13:20 PM »
It is rare for an animal that isn't shot in the head or spinal cord to die instantly. The animal may become unconscious or collapse from shock but is alive for several seconds. It is somewhat of a mystery why some animals collapse instantly while other animals shot in the same way run. In my experience it seems that bigger animals like elk and moose collapse more often than smaller animals like pronghorns.
I tend to agree to no rhyme or reason, especially with bears. Harvested exactly 30, and been in on many other kills. In my head it would be a rough guess of 50/50 on DRT and short runs. Array of calibers, ranges, bullets, angles, and sizes.  But dead is dead in the end. Shot a bull moose at 450 yards and wash the most classic “Bang Flop” I’ve ever witnessed. Can figure how to share the video though
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Re: What does "Bang Flop" mean to you???
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2024, 06:41:50 PM »
Boom flop every time we slaughter a steer :dunno:

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Re: What does "Bang Flop" mean to you???
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2024, 08:38:21 PM »
I've had three.
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Both bears were hit in the heart with Accubonds, 180gr and 165gr. The deer 143gr ELD-X. All three were lying where they were shot.


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Re: What does "Bang Flop" mean to you???
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2024, 05:38:17 AM »
I stand hunt for deer and most of the animals I shoot bang flop. This year I saw my deer folding up before recoil hit me (pretty common) and I shot my bull in chest as he was facing me with muzzleloader at 80 yds and his legs collapsed under him. Nice when you get quick clean kills.

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Re: What does "Bang Flop" mean to you???
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2024, 06:07:15 AM »
I've had a few bang flops. 30-06, .270win, .243win. All were deer, except one big cow elk with the .270win. The .243win has given me the most bang flops. If not a bang flop, pretty extremely rare to not watch them fall over before getting out of sight.
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Re: What does "Bang Flop" mean to you???
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2024, 09:13:49 AM »
For me, bang->flop = piled up instantly with the animal not running off at all. Doesn't include cannonballing down on steep slopes due to gravity, which I've had happened on a couple bears. Not quite half of the bears I've harvested have been bang->flop.

While I also don't celebrate or glorify the kill, this is the most satisfactory/humane outcome IMO.

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Re: What does "Bang Flop" mean to you???
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2024, 09:30:27 AM »
I absolutely glorify a quick ethical kill.  Nothing makes me sicker to my stomach than a wounded animal that you don't have 100% confidence your going to retrieve.  We have all had those animals that you leave for a couple hours while you hope they expire and can be recovered.  Bang flops don't always mean instant death, but it does mean they died quickly.....or could be dispatched quickly with a follow up shot. 

The above being said, I think the vast majority of kills are not bang flops / drt / etc.  Was more curious to see what others experiences were because so many folk on the internet say most of their shots are bang flops.....and I feel it may be a little exaggerated.  I've been hunting since I was 8 and would say less than 50% of my rifle / muzzy kills (excluding archery for obvious reasons) have dropped where they stood......probably closer to 25% or less.  Almost all of my recoveries have been under 50 yards and in many cases, you see the animal fall before leaving your sight.  Some of this has to do with my hunting areas being more open, I'm sure the west side jungle is much different. 

It has seemed to be completely random with which animals flop and which runs make a mad dash.....  I've used large caliber, small caliber, mono, cup and core, etc, etc, etc, and there is no rhyme or reason.  I don't like to waste meat so I almost always look for a good double lung shot that doesn't involve the shoulders.  I have found that Monolithic bullets have less meat damage when involving large muscle groups. 

Anyhow.....I'm just rambling now!!   :chuckle: :chuckle:

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Re: What does "Bang Flop" mean to you???
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2024, 10:00:36 AM »
Ok, I'll say what I'm sure others are thinking.  This is not a question you'd ask your wife or most other ladies. LOL

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Re: What does "Bang Flop" mean to you???
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2024, 10:01:20 AM »
I absolutely glorify a quick ethical kill.  Nothing makes me sicker to my stomach than a wounded animal that you don't have 100% confidence your going to retrieve.  We have all had those animals that you leave for a couple hours while you hope they expire and can be recovered.  Bang flops don't always mean instant death, but it does mean they died quickly.....or could be dispatched quickly with a follow up shot. 

The above being said, I think the vast majority of kills are not bang flops / drt / etc.  Was more curious to see what others experiences were because so many folk on the internet say most of their shots are bang flops.....and I feel it may be a little exaggerated.  I've been hunting since I was 8 and would say less than 50% of my rifle / muzzy kills (excluding archery for obvious reasons) have dropped where they stood......probably closer to 25% or less.  Almost all of my recoveries have been under 50 yards and in many cases, you see the animal fall before leaving your sight.  Some of this has to do with my hunting areas being more open, I'm sure the west side jungle is much different. 

It has seemed to be completely random with which animals flop and which runs make a mad dash.....  I've used large caliber, small caliber, mono, cup and core, etc, etc, etc, and there is no rhyme or reason.  I don't like to waste meat so I almost always look for a good double lung shot that doesn't involve the shoulders.  I have found that Monolithic bullets have less meat damage when involving large muscle groups. 

Anyhow.....I'm just rambling now!!   :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Re: What does "Bang Flop" mean to you???
« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2024, 11:25:42 AM »
To me bang flop means I Missed, made a bad shot, but got lucky and hit the spine.

The wife and I have shot 20 bears. About half of those were heart shots. Not one heart shot bear went bang flop. They all ran off at least 30-80 yards. My wife has shot a couple high though that went through the top of the lungs and ruptured the spinal cord and they dropped. I have personally never had any animal go bang flop from a vital hit. But I don’t aim for shoulder meat.

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Re: What does "Bang Flop" mean to you???
« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2024, 12:09:06 PM »
To me "bang flop" means it didn't take another step.

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Re: What does "Bang Flop" mean to you???
« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2024, 01:17:01 PM »
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Re: What does "Bang Flop" mean to you???
« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2024, 02:00:22 PM »
Nearly all the elk we’ve been shooting with 300 gr go bang flop but some freeze on first shot snd bang floo on second

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Re: What does "Bang Flop" mean to you???
« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2024, 02:24:20 PM »
Wait till you have a bang flop ,then you get over to the animal and it's gone. Got up and ran off while you was hiking to it.
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Re: What does "Bang Flop" mean to you???
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2024, 03:16:00 PM »
Bang Flop? It means what the buffalo did after I shot him behind the ear…...Freaking heavy thud  :o

 


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