Resign?

[CarbonHunter]

I saw an interview last night where they found a guy who took the buyout and said the reason was because he didn’t want to return to the office full time. For workers like this I feel the country is better off letting them go but I’m sure not all of the workers leaving are people who don’t want to work.

I am getting concerned about the private sector layoffs and price increases that are coming as a result of the tariffs. Trump and Musk might be over playing the hand they were dealt by moving too quickly and the democrats will pounce once the economic data starts to point to anything negative.

We have already received price increase notifications from manufacturers siting the tariffs for the reason and we are going to be passing those onto the consumer. This will drive inflation backup as we cannot build anything in this country without steel and aluminum or the components from China.
 

[Stein]

Public sector layoffs will noticeably impact the economy at the level they are shooting for.  They are tossing around the number of 10%, that's the equivalent of the entire city of Spokane nearly all at once.  In addition to the direct employees, there are an unknown number of companies that are going to pull back and reduce staff.  I'm not arguing right or wrong, just looking at the impact to the economy.

On the other hand, I'm not worried at all about the tariffs, it's a short term tactic to get better trade deals that has worked wonderfully.  Worst case they can be removed as quick as they were put on.  There are also powerful lobbyists for all the impacted industries to balance it all out.  Easy net win for the country.

I do feel bad for many federal employees, there are many of that are doing their job to the best of their ability in places we really want them and deserve better even if it's in the best interest of the country to eliminate that position.

[HUNTIN4SIX]

Well with the amount of government saving we will have after the fraud has been exposed, I think paying for early outs is the last thing to worry about.  Lotsa kicking and screaming and false sensational hype from the safe and secure government workers.  I too bought into the lie of security.  Nobody to blame but the government politicians on this one.  Lives will be affected...it’s sad.  Seems many are so wounded up about layoffs...not totally compassionate because I went through it with the jab.  Where was the same outcry with the jab layoffs.  Just curious?

[Russ McDonald]

Public sector layoffs will noticeably impact the economy at the level they are shooting for.  They are tossing around the number of 10%, that's the equivalent of the entire city of Spokane nearly all at once.  In addition to the direct employees, there are an unknown number of companies that are going to pull back and reduce staff.  I'm not arguing right or wrong, just looking at the impact to the economy.

On the other hand, I'm not worried at all about the tariffs, it's a short term tactic to get better trade deals that has worked wonderfully.  Worst case they can be removed as quick as they were put on.  There are also powerful lobbyists for all the impacted industries to balance it all out.  Easy net win for the country.

I do feel bad for many federal employees, there are many of that are doing their job to the best of their ability in places we really want them and deserve better even if it's in the best interest of the country to eliminate that position.

That is the target from the resignation.  Now, the next target is the firing of the probationary.  Don't get me wrong in the last 4 years they went on a major hiring rampage with money that wasn't budgeted.  Awaiting the next target after going back to work on Tueaday.

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[Sitka_Blacktail]

This is what is happening now. The following is a post from a local fish biologist in the area I fish in Alaska. I seriously doubt her position was wasted money.
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"Until today, I was a fish biologist with the Chugach National Forest. I had been in my position for 11 months and 1 week; 3 weeks shy of the end of my probationary period. My reviews were stellar and just last week, my supervisor told me I was doing a fantastic job and he already certified that he wanted to keep me on past my probationary period. Today, in a form letter that had “batch” in the name and “Jill” instead of “Jillian”, I was informed I did not demonstrate my continued employment would be in the public interest and I was being terminated effective immediately. Me, along with 330,000 probationary federal employees nationwide.
As a fish bio, I worked on prioritizing road/stream crossings (culverts) for replacement; bad culverts block salmon passage to upstream habitat. I was developing our program direction for aquatic invasive species monitoring and response.
I was also a leader of the response team to eradicate an aquatic invasive plant from a lake in the Kenai River watershed. This plant is highly detrimental to salmon and salmon habitat. The Kenai River is a world class (and world renowned) fishery.
Much of what I worked on in the last year will be shelved; there will be no one to do the work.
On a very personal level, I’m a single mom who mostly lives paycheck to paycheck. I took a pay cut to take this job and made the move for what I thought was increased stability and getting to conserve salmon habitat in a national forest that was super special to me.
THIS is the reality of what’s happening. THIS is the heartbreak and devastation."

[CarbonHunter]

I saw earlier today that the US Forest Service seams to be the hardest hit with today’s terminations. Honestly we were finally starting to see some actual management of our forests since Clinton stopped logging and I think these across the board actions will set forest management back even further.

[MADMAX]

I saw earlier today that the US Forest Service seams to be the hardest hit with today’s terminations. Honestly we were finally starting to see some actual management of our forests since Clinton stopped logging and I think these across the board actions will set forest management back even further.

Give it some time
I believe Trump will be directing his team to start doing some realignments, restructuring and new hiring

[Fidelk]

lol

[Naches Sportsman]

From what I’ve seen for USFWS, 400-500 probationary employees out of around 8000-9000 total are being let go. We will see what it does on impacts to the work on the ground that the wildlife refuges do to burn, clean up, and open gates. USFWS does a lot of consultation and survey work for other fed and state agencies as well so this may have an impact on the hunting and fishing stakeholder community.

[Buckhunter24]

I saw earlier today that the US Forest Service seams to be the hardest hit with today’s terminations. Honestly we were finally starting to see some actual management of our forests since Clinton stopped logging and I think these across the board actions will set forest management back even further.

Give it some time
I believe Trump will be directing his team to start doing some realignments, restructuring and new hiring

Fat chance, most areas have lost a significant portion of their workforce that had the boots on the ground. To think this will get turned around anytime soon beyond laughable. The terminations will continue through next week, for an agency that was already lean. Oh well what’s a few more people to add to Washington homeless population.

Ramp up the cut then we can look at bringing back some employees.

[MADMAX]

It’s only been 3 weeks in

I lived through the Clinton years government RIFs
Got that Tshirt , seen it in real time.
After 38 years seen lots of no loads that needed a reality check
Probationary and temp employees go first because of the rules
Then a reset
Temps, contract employees, realignment follows
If a let go employee is a performer they usually find there way back

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2025/2/7/fact-check-did-clinton-set-the-precedent-for-mass-federal-worker-buyouts


Look on USAjobs -still jobs available

Time will tell

[Platensek-po]

Well with the amount of government saving we will have after the fraud has been exposed, I think paying for early outs is the last thing to worry about.  Lotsa kicking and screaming and false sensational hype from the safe and secure government workers.  I too bought into the lie of security.  Nobody to blame but the government politicians on this one.  Lives will be affected...it’s sad.  Seems many are so wounded up about layoffs...not totally compassionate because I went through it with the jab.  Where was the same outcry with the jab layoffs.  Just curious?

Lolololololololol.

[dwils233]

I saw earlier today that the US Forest Service seams to be the hardest hit with today’s terminations. Honestly we were finally starting to see some actual management of our forests since Clinton stopped logging and I think these across the board actions will set forest management back even further.

Give it some time
I believe Trump will be directing his team to start doing some realignments, restructuring and new hiring

Fat chance, most areas have lost a significant portion of their workforce that had the boots on the ground. To think this will get turned around anytime soon beyond laughable. The terminations will continue through next week, for an agency that was already lean. Oh well what’s a few more people to add to Washington homeless population.

Ramp up the cut then we can look at bringing back some employees.

That's not realistic. That's like having a doctor tell the surgeon to just start pulling out organs and well see how it goes during the post-surgery recovery.

Targeted cuts might have been productive AFTER auditing and understanding the impact. Broad base decimation doesn't actually protect the financial and resource interests of our country. That's why you don't just have some random person come in and fire your IT staff to save money... System dependency and vitality.

Musk did the same process at Twitter. Market cap went from 44b to 9b. It doesn't make operational sense or business sense

[baldopepper]

I was employed several years ago by a fairly large, international company with offices literally around the world.. With profits down two years in a row, a decision was made to cut costs by closing some offices and letting people go.  They offered what they called an early retirement offer to nearly every employee. 6 months pay and 6 months health insurance coverage.  Problem was that every good employee who knew they could easily find employment (mostly with competitors)  were the ones who took the offer.  (Myself included)  That was not enough so.they laid off another large group starting with the newest employees and worked their way up to reach their goal  This left them with a management group who should have been selectively let go for poor preformance. Additionally the younger ones who made the cut were concerned about future cut backs and most of the better ones started immediately looking elsewhere..Company never really recovered, sold off some divisions and is now a shadow of its old self.  Their record has made it difficult to recruit top people. Hope we're not seeing that same type thing in our government.

[EnglishSetter]

I saw earlier today that the US Forest Service seams to be the hardest hit with today’s terminations. Honestly we were finally starting to see some actual management of our forests since Clinton stopped logging and I think these across the board actions will set forest management back even further.

Give it some time
I believe Trump will be directing his team to start doing some realignments, restructuring and new hiring

Fat chance, most areas have lost a significant portion of their workforce that had the boots on the ground. To think this will get turned around anytime soon beyond laughable. The terminations will continue through next week, for an agency that was already lean. Oh well what’s a few more people to add to Washington homeless population.

Ramp up the cut then we can look at bringing back some employees.

That's not realistic. That's like having a doctor tell the surgeon to just start pulling out organs and well see how it goes during the post-surgery recovery.

Targeted cuts might have been productive AFTER auditing and understanding the impact. Broad base decimation doesn't actually protect the financial and resource interests of our country. That's why you don't just have some random person come in and fire your IT staff to save money... System dependency and vitality.

Musk did the same process at Twitter. Market cap went from 44b to 9b. It doesn't make operational sense or business sense

False equivalency.  The only reason Twitter capped at $41BB (not 44) was because Musk was buying it (unless you have another explanation for gaining 28% in it's last month).  No longer,  being publicly traded, the current value is difficult to determine accurately, but if the same metrics (like P:E) were used to value "Wall Street", many would be cut if half.  Lots of speculation. Twitter didn't make a profit most years, it's price:sales was "risky", had high debt load and high loan payments.  Perhaps Musk paid way too much from a business perspective, but he wanted it and that's what it took.  The market priced in his acquisition.  Add in more competing platforms now, but Musk has ambitions to make "X" more than a platform.

Twitter made it's $ via advertising (the ol' "if it's free, you're the product" game).  A lot of advertisers backed out due to the dropped accounts hullaballo  It really didn't have to do with Musk trimming staff. 

X seems to be functioning just fine.  If it's not, what staff positions are needed?  You should be able to attempt an answer ion that if you feel his staff cuts are responsible for it's devaluation.

IMHO it's fallacy to correlate public/private companies with .gov.  .Gov/Bureaucrats exists to grow their empires.  The bigger the budget/payroll, the more power your .gov org wields.  I had a friend (D) who was a Legislative Analyst for a state legislator.  She had a coworker with same title.  There wasn't enough work for one, but the legislator didn't want to reduce his budget.  So......they each worked 2 days per week for 5 day $$$.  That was $120k each 12 years ago.


This idea that .gov jobs last forever is counter to any non-public sector.