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Re: alkili bull elk permit problems.
« Reply #60 on: May 14, 2025, 03:07:57 PM »
Also, WDFW said they will notify everyone as soon as the Army makes their official announcement.  So, bashing them is silly. 

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Re: alkili bull elk permit problems.
« Reply #61 on: May 14, 2025, 04:01:03 PM »
From the WDFW in an alert this week.

Yakima Training Center Closure Talking Points

May 12, 2025


· Beginning June 1, 2025, the U.S. Army’s Yakima Training Center (YTC) is closing public access to YTC land, which includes Game Management Unit (GMU) 371 (Alkali).


· The U.S. Army made this decision due to staff reductions and hiring constraints.


· GMU 371, located between the Yakima and Columbia River, includes the U.S. Army’s Yakima Firing Center and is a popular area for deer, elk, and upland bird hunting.


· Since hunting will not be allowed on YTC land, the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) will not be able to offer elk and deer special hunts in GMU 371.


o 365 elk special hunt permits, and 12 deer special hunt permits will not be available this season.


· WDFW will not be accepting special hunt applications for GMU 371 during the ongoing 2025 special hunt permit application period.


o Hunters who have already submitted a 2025 special hunt permit application including GMU 371 as a hunt choice will be notified and instructed to select a different hunt choice.


· This public access decision will also close a Master Hunter general season in August.


· WDFW received official verbal confirmation of the decision on May 8, 2025. The Army is working on an official letter to WDFW, tribes, and the public for distribution the week of May 12.


· The Army will be responsible for notifying the public and will be the lead on public or media inquiries about this change. WDFW will direct media to the Army to answer questions.
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Re: alkili bull elk permit problems.
« Reply #62 on: May 14, 2025, 04:25:55 PM »
What are they waiting for?  They sure send out a lot of emails regarding changes to fishing regulations! Almost daily!   :bash:
Lol. If YTC had crabs or fish we’d have got at least 50 emails by now.
I'm sure during some training cycles, crabs can be found. Just sayin.
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Re: alkili bull elk permit problems.
« Reply #63 on: May 14, 2025, 04:54:40 PM »
This is not the game department screwing hunters out of Hunting rights. It’s a military installation that is going to be closed for training for a year, possibly two.


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The closure is not for just for training. The closure is because the CO of the base is too lazy to be bothered with the additional work required for allowing hunters on base to hunt. Doesn't matter what was done in the past. He has got excuses  that don't fly. They always worked around their training schedule if they could in the past. I think most understand this. The CO is probably a DEI promoted dude in a dress that has an axe to grind with Trump voters. Betcha if enough noise is made about this he will be one less dude in a dress or wannabe in the Army.

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Re: alkili bull elk permit problems.
« Reply #64 on: May 14, 2025, 04:57:14 PM »
Thank you for contacting the Department of Fish & Wildlife with your Alkali hunt choice question. Yes, we have been notified by the Army that the Yakima Training Center will close to public access beginning June 1, 2025. The Army made this decision due to staff reductions and hiring constraints. Consequently, WDFW will not be able to offer deer and elk special hunts in GMU 371. We were verbally notified of the Army’s decision on May 8th and anticipate the Army making a public announcement this week

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Re: alkili bull elk permit problems.
« Reply #65 on: May 14, 2025, 05:52:55 PM »
As near as I can tell through some quick research, the YTC has been open to the public for recreation since 1989 (36 years).  Of course the usual restricted training areas dictate the amount of access the public has on any given day.  Now, all of a sudden this is not doable.?  The current commander took over 7/4/2024 and I believe has a 2 year stint so I guess we can expect this to be the case next year also.  Hopefully not in future years, but my experience in this state is once they take away something it never comes back. Frustrating!

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Re: alkili bull elk permit problems.
« Reply #66 on: May 14, 2025, 07:00:47 PM »
As near as I can tell through some quick research, the YTC has been open to the public for recreation since 1989 (36 years).  Of course the usual restricted training areas dictate the amount of access the public has on any given day.  Now, all of a sudden this is not doable.?  The current commander took over 7/4/2024 and I believe has a 2 year stint so I guess we can expect this to be the case next year also.  Hopefully not in future years, but my experience in this state is once they take away something it never comes back. Frustrating!

I wonder how the tribes feel about the closure. Here is what he said when he assumed command: "And similarly for the tribes. I think for the tribes, one of the things is just continuing to assure them that their cultural rights and their access to these lands will continue. " Unless he has an under the table agreement with them my guess is they are just as disappointed as we are.

https://www.yakimaherald.com/news/local/community-q-a-lt-col-terry-gambrel-commander-of-the-yakima-training-center/article_246810f6-aea9-11ef-9c44-cba97dc96440.html

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Re: alkili bull elk permit problems.
« Reply #67 on: May 14, 2025, 08:50:46 PM »
I'm guessing they won't be disappointed.   :twocents:

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Re: alkili bull elk permit problems.
« Reply #68 on: May 15, 2025, 05:31:51 AM »
I'm guessing they won't be disappointed.   :twocents:
Oh boy, I see where you are going there...  Someone's feelings are gonna get hurt with that assumption..  lol
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Re: alkili bull elk permit problems.
« Reply #69 on: May 15, 2025, 03:56:14 PM »
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Re: alkili bull elk permit problems.
« Reply #70 on: May 15, 2025, 04:26:21 PM »
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And there you have it,   Natives will have the place to themselves..... 
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Re: alkili bull elk permit problems.
« Reply #71 on: May 15, 2025, 04:34:37 PM »
Figured they did not want the tribes picketing and blocking access. Would be a national event. I am old enough to remember what happened in Tacoma years ago.   

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Re: alkili bull elk permit problems.
« Reply #72 on: May 15, 2025, 04:35:09 PM »
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And there you have it,   Natives will have the place to themselves.....

Who monitors them.🤔
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Re: alkili bull elk permit problems.
« Reply #73 on: May 15, 2025, 05:02:27 PM »
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And there you have it,   Natives will have the place to themselves.....

Who monitors them.🤔
the two gate officers who check in the permit holders🤦‍♂️
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Re: alkili bull elk permit problems.
« Reply #74 on: May 15, 2025, 05:07:59 PM »
I think he was implying that if they can check native's in they could check the rest of us in.
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