Guess the score on this Masher.

[BoomWhop]

gross 417  net 408

[bonkellekter]

I am gonna say he is right at that 395-400 range

[KillerMiller]

386.

[ouchfoss]

500 !!! 

But seriously I think he's over 400 gross

405 gross

395 net

[fishwhackin]

402 & 5/8   I should know, I dream of that bull every night!

[lewy]

Bet he's 393

[WAPITIHUNTER]

This is what I was told by the owner of the ranch......................................440!!!

That is most certainly the gross and it is probably a little high. So Elkaholic123 and BoomWhop you guys were right in there there, Great Job!!!!!!!!

Needless to say I would have not had to take a second look before loosing an arrow on that bruiser.

[Elknut1]

 I do not doubt the rancher told you 440" but no way is he over 390"

  ElkNut1

[Pathfinder101]

 I do not doubt the rancher told you 440" but no way is he over 390"

  ElkNut1

 

Not with those brows he's not 440, gross, net...whatever.  He might bust 400 with those ridiculous G5s and extras, but I dont think he'll go anywhere near 440.
Ditto that he's a young bull too.  Wonder what he'll grow next year...

[bowtech721]

440 prolly not but just over 400 is for sure realistic

[WAPITIHUNTER]

I hear what you all are saying and yes I am just relaying what I was told. I do tend to try and give people the benefit of the doubt when I talk with them and I am usually pretty good at sniffing out BS. These people were very polite and friendly. He let me drive up into his property to take photo's and we talked about the diferences in body size between Roosevelt's and Rocky's. He was simply to the point about what he was telling me. I did get the Impression that he was really into big antlered bulls. Obviously the bigger the antlers the more velvet he gets to strip the more money he gets to put in his pocket. It was not just that though. He was enthusiastic about his prised big boys. He had two that he was very proud of, this big typical and the big non typical. I suppose the only way to know for sure is to tranquilise the bull and tape him out.

Here are a few more bulls he had that were still carrying there racks.

[Pathfinder101]

Some impressive bulls there.  Looks like he's got a gene in his herd from huge backs and comparitively small fronts.  I said "comparitively" too.  Anytime you are talking about bulls that go 350" to 400" and you use the word "small", you have to say "comparitively"

[passing-thru]

Is it the length of the tines that make the main beam seem short?  I never seen anything close to that, nor do I know much about scoring game, but it just seems short to be over 400" I saw one at a show once that was 417 and the bull pictured is no where near what I remember. But I agree I would not pass on him...

[Pathfinder101]

Is it the length of the tines that make the main beam seem short?  I never seen anything close to that, nor do I know much about scoring game, but it just seems short to be over 400" I saw one at a show once that was 417 and the bull pictured is no where near what I remember. But I agree I would not pass on him...

Might be an optical illusion because of the mass. The main beams don't look that short to me, especially with that loooong whale-tail.

[bonkellekter]

Is it the length of the tines that make the main beam seem short?  I never seen anything close to that, nor do I know much about scoring game, but it just seems short to be over 400" I saw one at a show once that was 417 and the bull pictured is no where near what I remember. But I agree I would not pass on him...

Might be an optical illusion because of the mass. The main beams don't look that short to me, especially with that loooong whale-tail.

They don't look all that short to me either but the fact that he is a 7x8 and has good mass do give the appearance of a compact frame - But only at first glance - like you said pathfinder look at the length of those whale-tails. Still no way I see him going over 400 by more than a couple inches (gross) probably net around 380-385