bow sight level

[grousetracker]

just was wondering how much effect on the arrow if the level is not perfectly centered? also does it matter if the sight is a right handed sight but put upside down so it can go on a left hand bow, the levels on the top not the bottom?

[NWWABOWHNTR]

Not having the "bubble" centered can cause the arrow to be off to the left or right by quite a bit even at short yardages as the bow is canted and not straight up/down.  Not sure about putting a right hand sight on a left handed bow, or what the effects would be.  

[alwinearcher]

The bubble being off is a big deal, your arrows will shoot more and more either left or right (depending on which way its off) the further out you get.
Having right handed sight on a left handed bow shouldnt be a big deal, just end up with the bubble on top.

[sakoshooter]

The level is a reference no different than the pins. As long as you are consistent and your pins are adjusted to your style of shooting, you're good. Now, if you held your bow out of plumb/level differently each time, it'd make a big difference. No different than not holding your pin on target each time consistently.

[alwinearcher]

The level is a reference no different than the pins. As long as you are consistent and your pins are adjusted to your style of shooting, you're good. Now, if you held your bow out of plumb/level differently each time, it'd make a big difference. No different than not holding your pin on target each time consistently.

Thats is true,
But, if you have your bow canted one way (even if its the same every time) your shots will gradually go left or right as the distance gets further unless you adjust the 2nd Axis so it is canted to make up for your bow cant. In order to do that you would need leveling tools, in which case you might as well of just correct your bubble...

[MIKEXRAY]

I know every bow is different but I did a test with my Mathews and shot out of level each direction to see how it would affect my flight. I found very little difference but I was tipping less than 25 degrees. I wanted to know in case I had to take a shot like that for some reason when hunting. I do always check my bubble during my shot routine, if a big bull makes me forget @ 20 yards I know my shot won't be off by enough to matter. From my testing.  Mike

[MtnMuley]

The level is a reference no different than the pins. As long as you are consistent and your pins are adjusted to your style of shooting, you're good. Now, if you held your bow out of plumb/level differently each time, it'd make a big difference. No different than not holding your pin on target each time consistently.

Thats is true,
But, if you have your bow canted one way (even if its the same every time) your shots will gradually go left or right as the distance gets further unless you adjust the 2nd Axis so it is canted to make up for your bow cant. In order to do that you would need leveling tools, in which case you might as well of just correct your bubble...

I agree with you both.  Very good statements.  Personally, I'd level my bow and then sight pins accordingly.

[alwinearcher]

There is a use for shooting with your bubble off..
Most Pros will "bubble into the wind" when they are shooting in the wind. They will know at 30 yards with a 10 MPH wind if they hold half a bubble into the wind to correct for wind drift.

[MtnMuley]

True Alwine.  However, I'm the kind of hunter that would never get that far into thought if the moment on a trophy arose.......especially at 30!   Hell, I'd hold into the wind before I checked the bubble!

[alwinearcher]

True Alwine.  However, I'm the kind of hunter that would never get that far into thought if the moment on a trophy arose.......especially at 30!   Hell, I'd hold into the wind before I checked the bubble!

Yeah, I usually just hold off too..

[grousetracker]

it seems like i am shooting worse since i started watching the bubble. i think my pins are adjusted for the slight cant of the bow. i still need a different grip for the bow but i am headed for bobs on saturday!

[D-Rock425]

it seems like i am shooting worse since i started watching the bubble. i think my pins are adjusted for the slight cant of the bow. i still need a different grip for the bow but i am headed for bobs on saturday!

You might need to adjust a little.  make sure you are not putting to much thought into your bubble and forget the basics. 

[alwinearcher]

it seems like i am shooting worse since i started watching the bubble. i think my pins are adjusted for the slight cant of the bow. i still need a different grip for the bow but i am headed for bobs on saturday!

You might need to adjust a little.  make sure you are not putting to much thought into your bubble and forget the basics. 

Yep,
The bubble should in your peripheral vision, not your focal point

[buck man]

The level is a reference no different than the pins. As long as you are consistent and your pins are adjusted to your style of shooting, you're good. Now, if you held your bow out of plumb/level differently each time, it'd make a big difference. No different than not holding your pin on target each time consistently.

I agree totally. I shot for years with metal pins and no bubble and had no problem killing critters. Now with a bubble on all my bows I find that I pay little attention to it. I think a consistent release, good anchor, and a non torquing grip will make you a better shot than paying attention to your bubble.... even out past 50 yards.

[alwinearcher]

The level is a reference no different than the pins. As long as you are consistent and your pins are adjusted to your style of shooting, you're good. Now, if you held your bow out of plumb/level differently each time, it'd make a big difference. No different than not holding your pin on target each time consistently.

I agree totally. I shot for years with metal pins and no bubble and had no problem killing critters. Now with a bubble on all my bows I find that I pay little attention to it. I think a consistent release, good anchor, and a non torquing grip will make you a better shot than paying attention to your bubble.... even out past 50 yards.

Most Archers dont need a level to shoot well. Until they are shooting one a side hill, thats is when a bubble is worth its weight in gold because the sub conscious wants to level the bow to the ground.