Fishermen's attitude

[DeKuma]

We need more of that here!

[Alchase]

Man, I miss this thread for a day or two and all hell brakes loose, lol.

What this all boils down too is common courtesy for the other guy. If you act like a *censored* bag, expect to be treated like one.

A couple years ago I took my dog for a run up to Flaming Geyser State Park. I spent many many days in my youth fishing the pretty little hole above the bridge. I took allot of fish out of that pretty hole off a 6' 6" medium action eagle Claw with a Mitchel 300a spincaster, that my dad put together for me from leftovers of all the poles us kids broke of my Dad's.
As Maizie and I walked up to the beach, there was this guy fishing the hole and I swear this guy had every piece of Orvis/LL Bean gear that a fly fisherman could covet. I was admiring the thousands of dollars of gear (I could not afford it but I could admire it, even though I do not Fly fish often.) He had the polarized glasses, the Bug proof shirt, waders and shoes, hanging fish net, cool looking Man purse fannypack, you know he could switch reels and be fishing again in nothing flat and not even leave the water. I asked him how the fishing was, and he glanced my way but did not say anything. So I asked him again a little louder thinking he could not hear me over the water. He turned his head around towards me and actually "shooshed me" . Well that got me laughing not meaning to be rude, but it just caught me off guard. As I was chuckling to my self, a kid about 12 walks up wearing flip flops and shorts with no shirt. He was carrying a small can with Okie and yarn leaders in it, and a couple strips of lead. His pole was just a typical spincast combo you see at Kmart. The kid says "Hi" to me ask asks "how has the fishing has been?". I laughed and told him he needs to ask the him (pointing to the guy who shooshed me). I was dying to see the guys response, lol. So the kid asks him "hows the fishing? What are they biting on?" The Orvis guy, did not disappoint me, he turns around puts his finger to his mouth and says "shoosh" again. So the kid looks at me with a grin and says "No luck huh, you want to try one of my Okies?" Orvis guy just moves upsteam about 100 yards without a word. I tell the kid "good luck" and start walking back to my truck. I had just let my dog in the truck when I hear a "zzzz" of line going out. I walked back over to watch. The kid had stepped into the river where Orvis guy had just left. I am not sure how many cast he had made, but it could not have been more the 5-10 and he hooked up. The kid walks his fish down and lands a nice 5-7 lb hen steely hatchery fish. Kid pick up his fish and yells upstream to Orvis guy "you sure you do not want to use one of my okies?"! the kid looks at me with a big grin on his face, and walks back to the picnic ground .

[DeKuma]

Gotta love that!

[jackelope]

You guys in WA are lucky people here don't run air boats like they do back home. If they did I'll bet there would be some real bitching.
I only know of two in WA: one that used to run the Skykomish and another at the Potholes

1 still runs the sky...seen him a couple times below lewis street bridge.

[Dman]

 I don't run my jet in rivers, I like the nice yellow tinge the salt puts on my hull

 I would probably only run the Columbia or lower Cowlitz. People have enough of an attitude towards jets on the salt....
 I won't be getting another jet anyways, Duckworth just made my dream boat, 26' Pacific Navigator.

[M_ray]

I sat here thinking, hey,  ...maybe we can post some common courtesy tips  ... but then I thought "F-that", *censored*s know who they are! Then I thought...maybe not! Even some of my hunting buddies embarras me when in public...

So, if you are a *censored* and havent figure out how to fish a river, let me give some "courtesy tips" before someone does something really bad to you.

* If bank fishing, stop your freaking casting as I approach in my boat, so that I may quickly and quietly slide thru....if you actually hook up, or get snagged, you arent going to be happy with me cause I cannot just slam on the brakes! 

* If you are a guide, screw you! You turds keep vacuuming up all of our fish, and get money too! Greedy buggers!

* If drifting, try to be courteous to the bank fishermen, as they feel like *censored* seeing you come down the river in your fancy schmancy freaking meat tub! (You should hear what they say after you pass, it would make a trucker blush!)

* If drifting, do not come down the river to park the boat within casting distance of bank fishermen who were there first. Do not beach your boat next to me, jump out and start casting, since I am stuck on this freaking riverbend, and you can enjoy the whole damned river. Stretch your stiff legs somewhere else, you are really irritating.

* If bank fishing, stop throwing rocks at me as I drift by, I now carry a gun.

* All fishermen, do not runover and start frothing up the water as I beach another fish out of my honey hole, HOW RUDE IS THAT! I dont care if you were there first... 

* No peeing in the river. Urine must be deposited atleast out of view of other fishermen.

* And on a more serious note, how about if we all make sure to pick up our trash, and maybe even a bit more each trip?

What Iceman said!

[LongTatLaw]

hmmm well,

I guess me and Tmike have just been lucky. I can think of dozens of interactions of passing sleds and other floaters and a few bankers. All have been nice and polite and the only exchanges have been...Catching any? Thats it... on several different rivers. Then again, Tmike acted shocked a few times when we had a fish on and a sled stopped and waited not even casting clear down from our fight. So maybe Ive just been lucky??

Maybe Tmike is a very scary looking dude and no one wants the ass whoopin he can dish out

sucks ya ran into that Ray. Ive been lucky so far.

[huntnphool]

Just because you didnt touch their lines, doesnt mean you didnt run their water or float the seam where the fish are holding. 

I stick to the larger rivers to run my sled to help avoid situations like this but even on the Cowlitz you come across drift boats that anchor in places that are going to create problems regardless which side you pass them on. Had an incident just a couple years ago where I was heading up river below Blue Creek and had about 6 other guides and privateers following in a single file line very close behind me when all of a sudden this guy in front of me decides to stop right on the turn at Blue Creek. He killed the throttle and threw it in reverse to stop quickly. His boat was a 16' open sled with very little freeboard, almost looked like a duck hunting boat. Anyway I had to choose which side to pass him on, the right side where all the bank fisherman were fishing or the left side which was the narrower of the two choices, between him and the VW Beetle size rocks. I slowed down as much as I could and still keep it on step, and proceeded past him with the other boats right on my ass passing him too. He yelled all the names in the book, gave me the middle finger salute and fired up his boat to go up river. When I got to the ramp I dropped off a friend that had to leave and let WF70 out to take a pee in the trees. Well this guy comes flying up the river screaming at the top of his lungs, things that would have shocked Lucifer himself. He ran his boat right up on the beach next to me and continued to yell obscenities to my grinning face, I think this pissed him off even more. Now keep in mind this was late December, snow on the bank, river temp about 38 degrees. I guess WF70 had got done peeing and had heard about all he was going to take. He came out of those trees dressed in street cloths and walked right into the river waist deep and got right in front of this guys bulging eyes He stuck his finger right between the guys eyes and said " If I hear just one more word out of your mouth, I am going to grab you buy the throat, drag you out of this boat and drown you right here in front of your friends", there were a couple other guys in his boat with him, neither of them said a word either, thank the lord.

Now I wasnt foloowing too close if thats what your thinking, I had plenty of time to stop my problem was the boats that were screaming up my backside. I was sure there would have been a major problem if I had thrown out the hook and did a nose dive, this is why I contimued around him. The other problem is if I had slowed down too much it would have made a much bigger wake and would surely have put several gallons of river water over the side of his boat, my sled makes less of a wake on step than slow.

Anyways my question is to the Professor. Since your seemingly the expert at the subject perhaps you could enlighten us all in the proper way to pass a anchored boat in the middle of a narrow river with guys fishing? I mean you are quick to point out all the things that were done wrong, how about bringing something positive to the discussion rather than creating "chaos" just a thought.

[LongTatLaw]

just get out...and hand carry ur sled around on dry ground...lol   hope ya got a buddy to help

[ICEMAN]

huntnphool, I apologize for swearing so much. You scared my so bad cruising by like that, I pee'd my pants! 

[huntnphool]

huntnphool, I apologize for swearing so much. You scared my so bad cruising by like that, I pee'd my pants! 

LOL, if it were you we would have cracked a cold one and maybe caught a few fish.

[sisu]

Alchase has the greatest story on the thread. FANTASTIC!!!

[Professor Chaos]

phool, in your situation it doesnt sound like there is much you could have done.  Idiots are all over the place and its tough to avoid them. 
All i am saying is that if Ray thought everyone on the river was being an *censored* to them, and he admitedly does not fish much, then there is the possibility that they were in the wrong or atleast not clued in to what they should do when passing someone else in a boat. Every situation is different but there are times to be close to the other boat, times to hug the far back and times to go between the shore and the boat.

[Dman]

 I totally agree, there are buttmunches every where. One time in MA11 years ago, my uncle, cousin and I were trolling a line off Pt Evans, I was using a brand new $15 deep Six. Some buttpipe trolled right over our lines coming up from behind us and tangled me up. He promptly pulls my line in and cuts my Deep Six off and tosses it over! After many threats and expletives he hightailed it out of there, but I just don't know what gets into some people...

[Ray]

All i am saying is that if Ray thought everyone on the river was being an *censored* to them, and he admitedly does not fish much, then there is the possibility that they were in the wrong or atleast not clued in to what they should do when passing someone else in a boat.

Incorrect statement. I never said everyone on the river was an *censored*. Specifically not "everyone" and not "*censored*".