Long Range 270

[Nape.257]

It sounds like you have done enough shooting and research that you know what you want.

Trigger - SSS or Target Accutrigger

Barrel - Benchmark,Pacnor,Brux (SinArm's will build what ever you want)

Stock - stockade stocks

A link to the savage I built.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=87540.msg1097720#msg1097720


One other thing order the barrel first it will take the longest to get.

[yorketransport]

 I love spending other peoples' money!

For the caliber the easy answer is the 270 WSM. It can be done on a small shank. That's what Savage originally built them on. On your long action you could seat the bullets way out there to gain a little capacity and just have the chamber cut with a long throat to match.

Now if you want to have some real fun, why not try necking down the 375 Ruger case to 270? It would be a real screamer! Set the case up to use the same shoulder angle as the WSM cases so that you could use WSM dies to neck size the brass. Then you wouldn't need to have custom dies or a die reamer made. The Ruger case feeds perfectly from a belted magnum magazine, which is not the case with the WSMs. They require a little bit of work to the feed lips.

For triggers, just get a Rifle Basix and be happy!

Barrels are the hardest to pick. I would go either PacNor or Benchmark. PacNor has been around and is a proven performer. The PacNors I've seen in the last couple of years have been better than ever. The only PacNor I have left is a 300 WSM which is a .3 MOA barrel out as far as I've shot it. It's one of my only barrels which I refuse to part with. I have a love, hate relationship with Benchmark. Their barrels are some of the best I've ever seen, at any cost. I have had some issues with delivery times and communication problems. My experiences seem to be uncommon though. After trying somebody different for my most recent project, I can confidently say that I will go back to using Benchmark.  I have used Sharp Shooter Supply, but trying to get ahold of them can be a full time job and they struggle more than most with meeting delivery times. Top notch products coming from them though.  Sin Arms has been my most recent custom barrel experience. My finished project was shipped out on Friday and should be here next week. I ordered the barrel in May of 2011. I was given a 13 week time line to have a 30" Brux barrel and a set of reloading dies cut for a 375 RUM Improved with my reamers, which I provided, and have a muzzle brake installed and timed to the action, all of which I provided. It took 13 months. I cannot recommend Sin Arms based on this alone. I can't comment on the quality of his work at this point but I'll certainly post some results when I get it all put together.

For stocks it will depend on what style you like. For a hunting style stock the B&C Durramax is hard to beat they're inexpensive and really solid performers. I like a more vertical grip in my long range stock but your options are a little more limited with the long action. Places like Stockade, Manner, XLR, McRee, and PDC can make anything you want. It just takes time and money. There are a couple of nice laminate stock out there if those interest you. Check out Stocky's Gun Stocks for some options.

Good luck with the build. The planning is the best part for me. I don't have time to shoot the guns once their built, but I always have time to plan another project. In fact I'm thinking about doing a 270-375 Ruger now. This is all your fault! 

Andrew

[snowshoes22]

270-375 ruger, sounds very interesting.  I love to reload but have never done any wildcat stuff.  It is something i would like to know more about.  I thought about just leaving the rifle a 7 mag with a heavier barrel and shooting 168 VLD's but that is boring compared to the alternative. 

Can a accutrigger fit on a pre accutrigger action? I love the target accutrigger on my model 12 LRP.

[yorketransport]

Can a accutrigger fit on a pre accutrigger action? I love the target accutrigger on my model 12 LRP.

You can make them fit, but you may need to do a little fitting. If I were going to replace the trigger, I'd just get an aftermarket one. You'd be surprised how good you can make the trigger you currently have on there. With a little time and tinkering it can be pretty darn good.

I'll play around with the some numbers on the 270-375 Ruger. It should be right there with the 270 STW. Think 130s in the 3500 fps range.

Andrew

[snowshoes22]

At those speeds what do you think barrel life would be?  I have heard the wsm family eat barrels up quick.  I'm looking for decent barrel life. Would the 375 be similaer to the wsm.   

[huntnphool]

I'm building one right now in 7mm, went with a Hart barrel http://www.hartbarrels.com/

[yorketransport]

At those speeds what do you think barrel life would be?  I have heard the wsm family eat barrels up quick.  I'm looking for decent barrel life. Would the 375 be similaer to the wsm.   

Realistically, I would think somewhere around 600 rounds in an untreated barrel. If you nitride the barrel I would expect nearly double that. The super overbore cases like the STW, Ultra Mag, Weatherby and others are all pretty hard on barrels. The smaller the bore diameter is relative to case capacity, the shorter your barrel life will be. You always chop 1-2" off of the barrel after 500 rounds and rechamber it. This would extend your overall barrel life by a few hundred by giving you a fresh throat to burn out.

Stop over thinking this and build the wildcat off the Ruger.  That way I can just rent your reamer instead of having my own made.

Andrew

[wraithen]

I read a study not too long ago about cfe. Seems a lot of the whole fast bullets ruining barrels may have been linked to copper build up.

[JPhelps]

Give Travis Redell a call at RBros Rifles - http://rbrosrifles.com/contact.php

He has been great to work with and his guns are tack drivers

[norsepeak]

Call Kirby Allen at Allen precision.  I have one of his 270 Allen mags, shooting wildcat bullets at .740 B.C. runnin 3400 fps.  He used Lilja barrels and they shoot fantastic.  I ring 15" steel with it at 1200 yards.  He also build my wife an amazing 270 that weighs around 6 lbs with scope that is a total tack driver.  Kirby is a wealth of knowledge and is great with the Savage stuff, he can get you pointed in the right direction for sure.

[JPhelps]

Ty, those Allen Mags cost more than $1000   The ballistics are great though.  I think my next build will be a .338 allen mag

[wraithen]

Give Travis Redell a call at RBros Rifles - http://rbrosrifles.com/contact.php

He has been great to work with and his guns are tack drivers

Rbros told me they would lower themselves with savages anymore.

[rbros]

Not exactly what I said.  Nothing wrong with Savages,  I have limited our builds to Remington and customs mainly due to keeping specialized tooling to a minimum.  I got tired of having to buy or make tooling for every make of action.  Spent more time doing that than the actual builds.  There comes a point when some tough choices have to be made, this was one of them.  Being swamped is both a blessing and a curse.

Not sure Kirby does Savages any more either.  Pretty sure on our last visit, he said he was doing custom actions only now.  With the new Berger .270 bullet coming out, things could re-awken with the 270 calibers.  Already have a reamer designed off my 7mm Rogue necked down to 270. 

[huntnphool]

Already have a reamer designed off my 7mm Rogue necked down to 270.

Can you explain your reasoning behind this? Just curious why someone would take a 7mm case and neck it down to a .277 bullet with less BC.

 I can see going with a .270 WSM and trying to design a rifle to shoot 1000 yards but a standard .270 necked down from a 7mm just seems counter productive to me, I don't see a benefit at all.

[rbros]

The new .270 berger in 170gr is supposed to have a BC around .7.  Although the 195 7mm has a higher bc, it might be to much weight for the smaller cases.  A 180 Berger 7mm is in the .650 range, and the 180 Hyrbid is right at .7.  That, and I have a couple of 270 fanatics that pushed to have it.  Myself, I would rather have the 7mm, but the 270 is a viable option as well.