best elk bugle for west side

[bankwalker]

What's everyone using for a bugle on the westside? If you jump back and for year to year and hunt east and west sides like me, do you use different bugles or just stick with one?

I really need to buy a bugle and start practicing. But every thing I know is rocky mountain elk.

[JPhelps]

I'm using Phelps Game Calls new bugle tube.
One bugle tube is all that is needed for either species.

[bankwalker]

I'm using Phelps Game Calls new bugle tube.
One bugle tube is all that is needed for either species.

That's just cheap promotion 

[PlateauNDN]

I'm using Phelps Game Calls new bugle tube.
One bugle tube is all that is needed for either species.

That's just cheap promotion 

 

[Huntbear]

What's everyone using for a bugle on the westside? If you jump back and for year to year and hunt east and west sides like me, do you use different bugles or just stick with one?

I really need to buy a bugle and start practicing. But every thing I know is rocky mountain elk.

Do you think a Rosie bull elk in the rut will know what a Rocky Mtn. Bull will sound like??  So those bulls that travel back and forth across the Cascade Range, will never answer each other??? 

Bull Elk:   Hey, that bugle sounds funny.. must be one of them west side boys... so am not gonna answer it.. 

[Nextleveloutdoors]

I'm using Phelps Game Calls new bugle tube.
One bugle tube is all that is needed for either species.

[Webfoot]

Just use a tube and a mouth reed.
Technique varies a little but not much.

John

[MIKEXRAY]

I use the Bugling bull game calls and have a lot of calling success.  I have been out with about 8 guys who each had their own favorite calls and I have always gotten more responses to my locator bugle then any others. I've let most of them call first & multiple times with no responses and then I let a locator bugle out and get an immediate response. Something about my call they love.  Mike

[bankwalker]

What's everyone using for a bugle on the westside? If you jump back and for year to year and hunt east and west sides like me, do you use different bugles or just stick with one?

I really need to buy a bugle and start practicing. But every thing I know is rocky mountain elk.

Do you think a Rosie bull elk in the rut will know what a Rocky Mtn. Bull will sound like??  So those bulls that travel back and forth across the Cascade Range, will never answer each other??? 

Bull Elk:   Hey, that bugle sounds funny.. must be one of them west side boys... so am not gonna answer it..

Oh they'll know 

[kentrek]

What's everyone using for a bugle on the westside? If you jump back and for year to year and hunt east and west sides like me, do you use different bugles or just stick with one?

I really need to buy a bugle and start practicing. But every thing I know is rocky mountain elk.

Do you think a Rosie bull elk in the rut will know what a Rocky Mtn. Bull will sound like??  So those bulls that travel back and forth across the Cascade Range, will never answer each other??? 

Bull Elk:   Hey, that bugle sounds funny.. must be one of them west side boys... so am not gonna answer it..

rocky mtn elk have a tad bit more of a temper than rosys,just my 

[DoubleJ]

I asked this question to Elknut and was told that the language and sound was identical between the two

[wrongway]

Bugling bull game calls all the way, never had a problem calling in bulls

[shorthair15]

get a bugling bull diaphragm call like the allstar or raging bull and a grunt tube from elknut or bully bull grunt tube from bugling bull. learn how to use the diaphragm and before you know it you will be makeing cow calls and bull sounds.

[JPhelps]

Ok, now for my answer without the shameless plug.

Elk Calling = 90% operator / 10% call.  At least when it comes to bugle tubes.  Diaphragm selection and external reeds the call has more to do with the sound.

The big volume tubes (competition style like my tube, bully bull and elknut chuckler) will aid in volume and make a bad caller sound a little better and a good caller sound excellent.  Then there is the balance of backpressure and volume.  The proper backpressure will assist in working the diaphragm and getting the resonance out of the plastic tube.  Too big of an opening on either end and you will lose some, not big enough openings and it becomes difficult to get the high clear notes.

The smaller tubes are a lot nicer to pack all day, but do give up some volume and calling diversity.

[Cylvertip]

I personally have had a good deal of success with the Primos Terminator.  I switch between the mouthpiece and and one of their triple read calls.  This combo has worked well all over the west side since 2001 for me.

[wraithen]

JPhelps, last I heard you were out of those bugles. Is this some kind of racket so you can triple the prices when you "find"  an extra one and pass it off as a rare vintage lost to the ages? 

[iRem]

Bankwalker now that you got your new bow are going east side or west side this year for elk?

[JPhelps]

JPhelps, last I heard you were out of those bugles. Is this some kind of racket so you can triple the prices when you "find"  an extra one and pass it off as a rare vintage lost to the ages? 

I still have them in stock.
I will sell YOU one for triple with my spit in it.

[bankwalker]

Bankwalker now that you got your new bow are going east side or west side this year for elk?

Idk I've been beating myself up trying to decide. I haven't even scouted over here yet 

[johnr060]

I really like the bugling bull bugle tubes.

[bloodhound]

i use a jones intimidater

[WapitiTalk1]

What's everyone using for a bugle on the westside? If you jump back and for year to year and hunt east and west sides like me, do you use different bugles or just stick with one?

I really need to buy a bugle and start practicing. But every thing I know is rocky mountain elk.

No difference between the elk language of RM or Rooseys bankwalker.  I actually asked this question to Larry D Jones when I moved out here from MT in the late 80s.. He said samey same (as somebody said Elknut1 stated) and I've experienced just this after bouncing back and forth between MT and WA for the past 25 years.  Same sounds.  A guy's just gotta learn to use his calls of choice to a high level of proficiency (not perfect, just good) and more importantly, understand elk language in different scenarios.. Once you understand what elk are saying/desiring, you have a much better chance at responding correctly and putting a big brown guys nose in the dirt.  RJ   

[THEBUGLER]

The guys at "Born and Raised " who hunt those Rosie's in he coastal range in Oregon carry nothing but Bugling Bull game calls 


They use the Bully Bull tubes 



And various reeds


And the temptress!


All available at :  http://www.elk101store.com/servlet/the-Elk-Calls/Categories