Sponsors should be screened. I see Banded as a sponsor on Waterfowl.

[Stilly bay]

I don't care if H20 is right or wrong. if someone of H20's waterfowling esteem wants to indict member of banded for foul play we all had better sit up and take notice and consider more of his side of the story before brushing him off.

[CCurtis]

"I don't care if H20 is right or wrong. if someone of H20's waterfowling esteem wants to indict member of banded for foul play we all had better sit up and take notice and consider more of his side of the story before brushing him off."

Stilly, we are passed this I think.  H2O charged Chad Belding (Banded Hunts) for leasing ground to hunt in Washington and charging to take people hunting.  The charges also included destroying waterfowl hunting for any future generation, and preventing Washington water fowlers from having a place to hunt.  The Grand Jury (message board) convened and found enough evidence to order him over to trial.  I entered a guilty plea on Chad's behalf for the charge of leasing ground through Banded Hunts and charging to take people hunting.  I entered a plea of not guilty on the charges of destroying hunting for future generations.  I entered a plea of no contest to the charge of preventing Washington water fowlers from having a place to hunt based upon the fact that I'm not familiar with public hunting in your state.  However, one witness (Campmeat) testified that "Hate to say it but, there are thousands and thousands of public land to hunt on in Washington State. So muich that you'd never be able to cover it all in a lifetime.........."  After that testimony was given the judge dropped that charge.

In summation:

Charges:
Leasing ground in Washington and taking payment from hunters - Guilty
Ruining waterfowl hunting for future generations - Charge Dropped - Argumentative and Speculation
Preventing Washington Hunters from Having a Place to Hunt - Charge Dropped based on Campmeat's testimony

Yes, the above rhetoric is looney at best.  It's my feeble attempt at satire.  But in my redneck simple brain, it is not any more irrational than the comment Stilly made above..."I don't care if H20 is right or wrong."  I understand that our justice system fails at times but thank the good Lord above that it's the exception and not the rule.  Because, if it was commonplace for our system to operate under the pretense to "not care if someone is right or wrong", well it'd be scary...

[BOWHUNTER45]

I now need to  because you handled yourself So professionally .... Order in the court 

[Buckmark]

this is dragging on to long  and I hate CHEVYS !

Me too...
I cannot believe this has made it to 6 pages, when other less controversial subjects have been nuked sooner....

[BOWHUNTER45]

Hmmmmm WTH is up with that 

[CoryTDF]

I was once "involved" with Belding and DDW and The Fowl Life all I can say is that when he called and wanted to come hunt if we could not positively guarantee a slam dunk hunt he was not interested. I know that nearly every person who has been involved with him and his shows has quit for one reason or another. I am not bad mouthing I just happen to have knowledge of how he operates while not on camera I can say he is not the type of guy I want to hang around. He has built an empire and is making a ton of money off of hunters. Is he doing it because he loves the sport and the game. Is he a purist who just likes to be out doing what he loves no matter if it's going to be a slam dunk? I don't think so. In truth I feel he has lost sight of what the sport is all about and for that I am sorry.     

[Ned]

Hello my name is Ned Belding and you better stop picking on my brother or I'm telling my Mom.

I just leased 500 acres in skagit and snohomish counties to open my new guide service.
Its called Christian Curtis guide service and we will take you free if you wear a banded nation skull cap.

PS...................we only hunt out of two man layouts for comfort (and pleasure).

.

[ellensburgpo]

Agree with much if what has been said about Mr Beldings so far, but I am confused on the lease issue. How is what banded hunts is doing any different then any other guide/outfitter? Land that is leased by any outfitter is then probably no longer available for people who used to hunt it. I guess I don't understand specifically why banded is evil but it's ok for all the other outfitters? What's different?

Not trying to defended them, just curious what they've done that's so far outside if the norm for that sort of business.

[Blacktail135]

 Two men in a layout.....for comfort and pleasure? I'm gonna have to pass on that offer.

[Dan-o]

"I don't care if H20 is right or wrong. if someone of H20's waterfowling esteem wants to indict member of banded for foul play we all had better sit up and take notice and consider more of his side of the story before brushing him off."

Stilly, we are passed this I think.  H2O charged Chad Belding (Banded Hunts) for leasing ground to hunt in Washington and charging to take people hunting.  The charges also included destroying waterfowl hunting for any future generation, and preventing Washington water fowlers from having a place to hunt.  The Grand Jury (message board) convened and found enough evidence to order him over to trial.  I entered a guilty plea on Chad's behalf for the charge of leasing ground through Banded Hunts and charging to take people hunting.  I entered a plea of not guilty on the charges of destroying hunting for future generations.  I entered a plea of no contest to the charge of preventing Washington water fowlers from having a place to hunt based upon the fact that I'm not familiar with public hunting in your state.  However, one witness (Campmeat) testified that "Hate to say it but, there are thousands and thousands of public land to hunt on in Washington State. So muich that you'd never be able to cover it all in a lifetime.........."  After that testimony was given the judge dropped that charge.

In summation:

Charges:
Leasing ground in Washington and taking payment from hunters - Guilty
Ruining waterfowl hunting for future generations - Charge Dropped - Argumentative and Speculation
Preventing Washington Hunters from Having a Place to Hunt - Charge Dropped based on Campmeat's testimony

Yes, the above rhetoric is looney at best.  It's my feeble attempt at satire.  But in my redneck simple brain, it is not any more irrational than the comment Stilly made above..."I don't care if H20 is right or wrong."  I understand that our justice system fails at times but thank the good Lord above that it's the exception and not the rule.  Because, if it was commonplace for our system to operate under the pretense to "not care if someone is right or wrong", well it'd be scary...

Dude,

When I need more stuff, I'll buy from your company just because you take this nonsense so well.         

[Kola16]

Hate to say it but, there are thousands and thousands of public land to hunt on in Washington State. So muich that you'd never be able to cover it all in a lifetime..........

Holy s#%t. Really? Ya sure there are, but you have to drive way to far. I have no money, I am young, and constantly looking for a job. There are not that many public access places where I live. My friend (same age as me), and I hunt atleast once a week because we can't get enough of hunting. We can't afford to run around the state. When I couldn't drive myself, my dad and I had a great public land spot, that got closed off about two years ago. We were both very bummed. I hate when public land gets closed off (no matter what I am hunting). There is not a whole lot of public duck land where I hunt.

Hello my name is Ned Belding and you better stop picking on my brother or I'm telling my Mom.

I just leased 500 acres in skagit and snohomish counties to open my new guide service.
Its called Christian Curtis guide service and we will take you free if you wear a banded nation skull cap.

PS...................we only hunt out of two man layouts for comfort (and pleasure).

.

Great, that is just what I wanted to hear (that is where I live). Hopefully this wasn't public land that got bought out. The stupid cap would probably scare away all the ducks plus it probably looks ridiculous so I will pass.


Oh, and I am definitely with H2O


Can I like Nike because they sponser Kobe "ballhog" Bryant. No I can't. They make him like the face of there company. I would like Nike more though if they dropped him.

[Special T]

If you guys want to get pissed about land issues, you should ask some questions,  like why is the Still Water unit in the Carnation Valley NOT being planted with corn? Or the other places as well. How about the island that got "reclaimed" for fish habitat off the Fir island unit? We are really getting screwed by the ESA and groups like DU that join in restoration projects for salmon... Our existing land is being co-opted for salmon to reduce opportunity. 

[CAMPMEAT]

Hate to say it but, there are thousands and thousands of public land to hunt on in Washington State. So muich that you'd never be able to cover it all in a lifetime..........

Holy s#%t. Really? Ya sure there are, but you have to drive way to far. I have no money, I am young, and constantly looking for a job. There are not that many public access places where I live. My friend (same age as me), and I hunt atleast once a week because we can't get enough of hunting. We can't afford to run around the state. When I couldn't drive myself, my dad and I had a great public land spot, that got closed off about two years ago. We were both very bummed. I hate when public land gets closed off (no matter what I am hunting). There is not a whole lot of public duck land where I hunt.

Hello my name is Ned Belding and you better stop picking on my brother or I'm telling my Mom.

I just leased 500 acres in skagit and snohomish counties to open my new guide service.
Its called Christian Curtis guide service and we will take you free if you wear a banded nation skull cap.

PS...................we only hunt out of two man layouts for comfort (and pleasure).

.

Great, that is just what I wanted to hear (that is where I live). Hopefully this wasn't public land that got bought out. The stupid cap would probably scare away all the ducks plus it probably looks ridiculous so I will pass.


Oh, and I am definitely with H2O


Can I like Nike because they sponser Kobe "ballhog" Bryant. No I can't. They make him like the face of there company. I would like Nike more though if they dropped him.

I stand by my statement.

[BOWHUNTER45]

Kola16 ...This is my biggest beech about leasing land ...you nailed it ..and I am not just weeding out Banned ..we all live in a certain area and we only have so much land we can access including private - state and federal  . we all cherish these lands that we use close to our homes and when everything around you is gated and that leaves you with less opportunity to use this land and then to have someone come in and lease the remaining land that was usable to you is paving the end for hunters like me and you and the rest of us ....It all sounds like we are idiots but it is the truth .....unless you have lots of money it is for sure coming to an end  we take everything for granite and that will be our down fall !!!! this is also why hunters get so peeesy over there hunting areas because they squeeze use in all together so its like a combat zone .......

[Special T]

The problem is only INCREASED by the actions of the WDFW by not using its CURRENT lands to their full potential!  Has anyone here ever hunted the Ridge field refuge down south? That is a GREAT Program that provides maximum opportunity for a relatively small area The west side should be developing its duck hunting areas to MAXIMIZE opportunity. Private land and leases become MORE valuable when the WDFW does little actual management and the is magnified here on the west side of the state.