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Re: Sick to my stomach...
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2012, 06:18:27 PM »
Hope you get your bear  :tup: .I feel your pain , I should shoot too more often than hold fishing reel  :bash: .You'll get him next weekend ,GUARANTEED ...... too bad I'll be out fishing for tuna ,otherwise I could help to pack  :chuckle:
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Re: Sick to my stomach...
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2012, 06:25:29 PM »
Clean misses are awesome. They make for good stories....I know Ive been humbled one or twice. Better luck next time bud.

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Re: Sick to my stomach...
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2012, 07:00:35 PM »
Did the math with that range and that elevation change it would be like taking a shot at 292 yards.  So if he aimed a little high, thinking about possible drop then bullet could have went right over bears back.  If he aimed at the normal kill zone, probably would of had a dead bear.

Hope you get another shot.

I aimed about 3 inches below his back thinking it would have dropped into his lungs. Next time I'll aim for lungs :)

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Re: Sick to my stomach...
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2012, 07:20:41 PM »
Clean misses are awesome. They make for good stories....I know Ive been humbled one or twice. Better luck next time bud.
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Re: Sick to my stomach...
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2012, 07:52:18 PM »
True balistic range was 272.718  point of impact difference was negligible unless the slope was more extreme.

Sorry my calc was for 300 yd laser range 125 yd rise. Went back and saw 318 laser range so it was just a bit longer. Bottom line is you always will aim lower than your laser range shooting either up or down hill. A squared + B squared =c squared.
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Re: Sick to my stomach...
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2012, 08:20:07 PM »
Right, but wouldn't 318 and 125 come out to be 292ish yds?  How did you get 272?
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Re: Sick to my stomach...
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2012, 08:36:47 PM »
Right, but wouldn't 318 and 125 come out to be 292ish yds?  How did you get 272?

Used 300
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Re: Sick to my stomach...
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2012, 09:40:44 PM »
I need to get rid of the Leica i borrowed from a buddy and snag my dads Leupold TBR range finder. I hate trying to get an educated guess on true ballistic yardage when shooting at animals..

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Re: Sick to my stomach...
« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2012, 08:07:41 AM »
I need to get rid of the Leica i borrowed from a buddy and snag my dads Leupold TBR range finder. I hate trying to get an educated guess on true ballistic yardage when shooting at animals..
that's like going from a ferarri to a ford Taurus... if its a very steep shot at reasonable ranges I have found that cutting 10% will be very close. Cut less the closer to horizontal it is. Besides there is not that much difference in drops from 290 to 320 yards... maybe 2-3 inches Max.
it sucks that you missed but that is a good learning experience.  Keep after it and get that bear!

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Re: Sick to my stomach...
« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2012, 09:10:41 AM »
Drop from 290 to 320 is 4.5 inches (assuming I guess MV right).  The difference between 300 and 290 is even less.  Aim point 3 inches from the top of the back was way too high.
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Re: Sick to my stomach...
« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2012, 10:35:57 AM »
probably get some butt hairs up with this one but, 300yds isnt that far, maybe your over thinkn it instead of just trusting god given shootn talent, i have killed a couple animals at 300 yrds and all i did was get a good rest and shoot them, i aint some crack shot i shoot a ruger #1 single shot 30-06 165gr, so maybe just go to the range without the range finder and just relax have fun and shoot, the biggest thing at that distance is breating and trigger squezze  :twocents:
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Re: Sick to my stomach...
« Reply #26 on: August 08, 2012, 03:59:33 PM »
Thats what chaps my ass about the whole situation. I reload my own ammo and consistantly get 1/2"-3/4" groups at 200 yards from a bench (which is MUCH different from hunting), but i had a chest high stump, rested on my hunting pack and I still pulled it high haha. My problem was i didnt think enough about the shot and just assumed it would drop. I was thinking about what kind of mount I was gonna have made instead of killing the bear first. Now I've never wanted to shoot a bear more, but more importantly THAT bear.

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Re: Sick to my stomach...
« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2012, 04:10:32 PM »
Hate to say it Lojack but it sounds like to you simply muffed the shot. Got to thinking about that pretty rug hanging on the wall. Next time you will be more focused and have a different story to tell.

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Re: Sick to my stomach...
« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2012, 04:26:22 PM »
You guys got me thinking, I ranged the bear I shot last week at 288 yards.  I didn't even think about it much, I used my known BDC rectical holdover circle and let her fly (I carry a custom printout and shot out to 600 yards to verify my Nikon BDC retical is in check).  I've got a Nikon Rifle hunter 550 range finder and always leave it on the angle comp setting. 

I just calculated the actual distance guesstimating a 45 degree slope (it was pretty steep), it calculated out at 407 yards, I would have missed completely if I would have held for 400.  I'm gunna take a trip over and actually range it without the angle compensation turned on to get an idea of how much I would have been off.
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