Wedge Pack: More cattle attacked in Stevens County (poll and letter)

[Ridgeratt]

Well they were howling this morning in the Wedge. I was doing a bit of recon and heard them.

[grizzlyadams]

Why? Because we have 2 different opinions on opposite sides of the arguement. I could just as easily say, people that think ranchers are getting screwed out of cash, due to cattle loses "missed by a mile." I don't think the game department should have to pay loses, which get passed off on the hunters. It is all part of the territory. If the ranchers don't like it, then sell their ranch and move. Nobody is forcing them to stay here.

 

Did he really just say this   

[CAMPMEAT]

I went and shot steel today with KFhunter. Didn't do good at all, scope and shooter was off. Anyhow, I talked to one of the " trained sheriffs " today and asked him for the truth about the " Wedge Pack ". He said that the politicians in Olympia need to get off their heads out of their asses and fix this problem, NOW ! He said it's a lot bigger than what is reported. I asked how many wolves the WDFW has shot, one, he said. He said the "SNIPER" was a college graduate with zero experience, except shooting a few birds. The cops asked the "SNIPER" what kind of scope he was using and the "SNIPER " said, 'A REMINGTON "... !!! They looked at each with a WTF look. I asked where the wolves were attacking to calves and he said, they're (wolves) are staying right in the fields and killing the calves. He also told me that the wolves are not bothering any cattle in the " SMACKOUT " pack. He said their " poop" has only elk and moose hair in it. He also said people are around every corner, behind every tree, etc, trying to see a wolf........

[Ridgeratt]

I had a pretty good idea of where to find them this morning but then I left the shop at 4:15 to go wander around also. Didn't see another rig until after 8 am.
I would guess if Clive was still around this topic would have never made it this far! 

[CAMPMEAT]

I had a pretty good idea of where to find them this morning but then I left the shop at 4:15 to go wander around also. Didn't see another rig until after 8 am.
I would guess if Clive was still around this topic would have never made it this far! 

8 am. Must be WDFW, can't have overtime to do their jobs because the gubmint has no money....

[Ridgeratt]

It was a Ferry County Fire Rig with exempt plates hunting Grouse!   
Guess maybe he filled the tank?
Can't imagine he would be using tax payers dollars for personal use.

[CAMPMEAT]

It was a Ferry County Fire Rig with exempt plates hunting Grouse!   
Guess maybe he filled the tank? Can't imagine he would be using tax payers dollars for personal use.

I was close I guess. But Ferry works 4-10's. Maybe working Sunday- Wednesday now... They gotta hunt grouse too, on our time. 

[Ridgeratt]

Wrong side of the line!! Unless he was playing a Mulligan!   

[CAMPMEAT]

Wrong side of the line!! Unless he was playing a Mulligan!   

I know, I know, it's a wrecked, used fire truck working undercover........ that's it. 

[bearpaw]

Why? Because we have 2 different opinions on opposite sides of the arguement. I could just as easily say, people that think ranchers are getting screwed out of cash, due to cattle loses "missed by a mile." I don't think the game department should have to pay loses, which get passed off on the hunters. It is all part of the territory. If the ranchers don't like it, then sell their ranch and move. Nobody is forcing them to stay here.

 

Did he really just say this   

Probably the one vote to not remove the problem wedge wolves. 

[bearpaw]

Bearpaw:

Maybe it is in the thread?  My question is, is WDFW (our tax dollars) reimbursing for these livestock kills?  Is there any way to get out of the State how much, if we do reimburse?  It would be nice to get a running total.

Don't quote me, but I think most of the livestock losses throughout the United States are being paid by funds from the feds, state, and wolf groups. Bottom line, taxpayers (you and I) are footing a lot of the cost. McIrvins have not accepted any livestock funds, they say that would be agreeing with the wolf plan and they refuse to do it. All this killing is a total loss for them.

I don't think much, if any, of the livestock loss fund, is taken from license and tag sales. But, I am pretty sure hunters and fishers are supporting much of the cost of wolf management due to all the managers, bios, and wardens spending so much time on wolves rather than traditional game species.

[CAMPMEAT]

We talked about comments like that today. Seems like all the bleeding heart, liberals don't have a clue. The sheriff also told me that most of all the pro wolf letters were most likely from out of state and from huge money backed wolf lover organizations. 

[300rum]

That tells me a whole lot about the McIrvins.

Bearpaw:

Maybe it is in the thread?  My question is, is WDFW (our tax dollars) reimbursing for these livestock kills?  Is there any way to get out of the State how much, if we do reimburse?  It would be nice to get a running total.

Don't quote me, but I think most of the livestock losses throughout the United States are being paid by funds from the feds, state, and wolf groups. Bottom line, taxpayers (you and I) are footing a lot of the cost. McIrvins have not accepted any livestock funds, they say that would be agreeing with the wolf plan and they refuse to do it. All this killing is a total loss for them.

I don't think much, if any, of the livestock loss fund, is taken from license and tag sales. But, I am pretty sure hunters and fishers are supporting much of the cost of wolf management due to all the managers, bios, and wardens spending so much time on wolves rather than traditional game species.

[bearpaw]

Big story on the Colville radio this morning. They talked about the 15 WDFW confirmed wolf kills, but the McIrvins claim that they have probably lost about 40 head. (Obviously some of these will never be found) The McIrvins asked the radio to thank everyone for their support including many local businesses who are helping the McIrvins during this time of great loss.

The radio also said the NMcIrvins are asking the state to delist Eastern Washington so we can manage these wolves.

McIrvins claim the WDFW is dragging it's feet and the sharp shooters they sent don't even know how to hunt. One of the sharpshooters was asked what type of scope, if it was a night scope, he said it was a remington scope! 

There was another comment something about them hunting meadows, I didn't catch it all. No wonder these guys can't get any more of the wolves.

This is turning into a very sad joke, even the radio was mocking this sad situation. 

[Miles]

One of the sharpshooters was asked what type of scope, if it was a night scope, he said it was a remington scope! 

I wouldn't expect many wolves to be shot by that tool.