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Author Topic: Taneum Herd Sept 9, 2012  (Read 11193 times)

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Re: Taneum Herd Sept 9, 2012
« Reply #30 on: September 11, 2012, 08:26:59 PM »
I don't know who shot the bull.  I have friends who live on Watt Canyon road that I hear from.  I've hunted a lot in that area and I don't care if somebody sits on the hill above the ranch and hunts, more power to them.  My complaint is if people do things that are illegal or unethical in the name of hunting and give the rest of us a black eye.  I don't know Nailbender and I didn't see him shoot his bull so I have no issue with him.  I'm relating information I received from people who live right there and I think it's relevant because I know they don't have any reason to make this stuff up, they're hunters too.  Why would you get defensive about this if my point is that some people do the wrong thing and it affects all of us? 
The difference there compared to elsewhere is that what you do is visible from a lot of places. 

Unfortunately there's always some guy who plants his buddies on the draw up the hill behind there, sneaks past the safety zone signs, and chases them up the hill off of the Heart K.  Everybody around there sees it or hears about it and it gives us all a bad name as greedy slobs.  A few years ago a guy shot a big muzzleloader bull that way, his friend chased it to him off the Heart K, then he went around posting pictures and bragging about what a great hunter he was.  Too bad.  I like the welfare elk tag, especially when they move over to Joe Watt.

Good lord! Really?? Just as RC said…GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT! Don’t start sling'n mud saying someone went behind safety zones, did something "illegal" and put it out there as an innuendo. And when you start talking about bad ethic's and try to attach my name to it...you god damn right I’m gonna take offense to that! You have NO F'n idea who the hell I am or what my moral codes are... Don't post something like that just because you want to gossip about what you "think" you know. You just assumed something you did not witness and you don’t have any privileged information to back up what you said, because it simply did not happen.

I really don't have to argue, dispute nor defend my ethics on how I shot my bull. The people who know - were with me. The people who know me.. Know who I am and what I stand for. The people who don't... gossip and try make someone else's success seem insignificant.
Well dude...  just as you said, I have no problem with you as I don't know who you are either.
Just get your facts straight before you post something like that! Makes you look like a fool!

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Re: Taneum Herd Sept 9, 2012
« Reply #31 on: September 11, 2012, 09:54:34 PM »
Seems like you're a little sensitive about this.  I'm not sure why you took it personally, I certainly didn't put your name on it, one of your buddies did.  My post was a generality and it describes something that happens there fairly regularly.  People do lots of unethical stuff out hunting, this is but one example, unfortunately people see what happens on that hill side so it gets lots of discussion time locally and over campfires in the camps around there.  I don't know why you think I'm talking about you but I'm not so get over it.  If you hunt legally and ethically then I certainly have no argument with you.  If you don't then maybe I can understand why you are so defensive.  I have nothing else to say, if you are looking for someone to argue with you'll have to look elsewhere. 
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Re: Taneum Herd Sept 9, 2012
« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2012, 06:18:03 AM »
ok boys I know that nailbender and hunterric know that area well . I also know anyone that scouted that area well that year and spent any time sitting on the road or hill knew that that bull was there along with a 7x club bull and a large 6x6 , there was a 352 6x6 hanging around but thye rut hunter shot him and a 340 class 6x7 that I got outta the area so to say you guys had no idea he was there is bs . I saw the pick where he was laying and it was very boarder line although i'm not sure how far he travelled after the shot. also that year two guys that knew the krd manager had tree stands yards outside the boundry with bails of allfalfa on the ground by the stand . those where locals . If you wanna clear nailbender just post the damm video otherwise i'd say your hidng something . I have said my piece on this issue aswell as rg and to nailbender thats a hell of a bull and i dont blame you for hunting very close to the boundry and cant say that i wouldn't have knowing he was there .

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Re: Taneum Herd Sept 9, 2012
« Reply #33 on: September 12, 2012, 06:59:21 AM »
It sounds like it must have been a nice bull, I congratulate him on that for his first elk.  Nobody told me a name, they just described an event that they witnessed.  It sounds like it could have been any number of guys.  I was certainly never blaming Nailbender or anybody else specifically because I didn't see it.  Everybody jumped right onto this and started thumping their chest when my intent was to merely state that we, as sportsmen and women, should hunt by the rules, it's good for our future and our image.  I'm not quite sure where we decided we needed to argue about that.  Have a good season this year.
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Re: Taneum Herd Sept 9, 2012
« Reply #34 on: September 12, 2012, 07:03:53 AM »
I saw a huge cougar down in there last winter...  It sat there at looked at us looking at it from the road..  I was sure wishing I could have dropped it..
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Re: Taneum Herd Sept 9, 2012
« Reply #35 on: September 12, 2012, 09:22:24 AM »
It sounds like it must have been a nice bull, I congratulate him on that for his first elk.  Nobody told me a name, they just described an event that they witnessed.  It sounds like it could have been any number of guys.  I was certainly never blaming Nailbender or anybody else specifically because I didn't see it.  Everybody jumped right onto this and started thumping their chest when my intent was to merely state that we, as sportsmen and women, should hunt by the rules, it's good for our future and our image.  I'm not quite sure where we decided we needed to argue about that.  Have a good season this year.
Yes we will try to have a good season in about 12 days, and same to you. 

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Re: Taneum Herd Sept 9, 2012
« Reply #36 on: September 12, 2012, 10:23:15 AM »
It sounds like it must have been a nice bull, I congratulate him on that for his first elk.  Nobody told me a name, they just described an event that they witnessed.  It sounds like it could have been any number of guys.  I was certainly never blaming Nailbender or anybody else specifically because I didn't see it.  Everybody jumped right onto this and started thumping their chest when my intent was to merely state that we, as sportsmen and women, should hunt by the rules, it's good for our future and our image.  I'm not quite sure where we decided we needed to argue about that.  Have a good season this year.
Yes we will try to have a good season in about 12 days, and same to you. 
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Re: Taneum Herd Sept 9, 2012
« Reply #37 on: September 12, 2012, 07:35:12 PM »
RG - I'll reel back just a taste. From the impression I get from your post, you seem to have a stellar code of ethic and I belive if you felt you were challenged on it, you too, would stand up for what you believe in.

I wish you a great season this year as well!

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Re: Taneum Herd Sept 9, 2012
« Reply #38 on: September 12, 2012, 07:38:14 PM »
Thanks Nailbender.  I probably could have been more careful how I worded my original post on this.  I believe your description of the events of your hunt, it sounds like it was a great elk.  Have a good season too.
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Re: Taneum Herd Sept 9, 2012
« Reply #39 on: September 12, 2012, 09:43:45 PM »
dang- I leave for a day of archery Elk hunting and everyone gets all fired up! hehehe

I just want to get my 25 bonus points from dirty24d

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Re: Taneum Herd Sept 9, 2012
« Reply #40 on: September 12, 2012, 10:32:34 PM »
dang- I leave for a day of archery Elk hunting and everyone gets all fired up! hehehe

I just want to get my 25 bonus points from dirty24d

Haha. Where do you live at? I might have info that could be shared! If your a drysider I won't be of much help though.
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Re: Taneum Herd Sept 9, 2012
« Reply #41 on: September 12, 2012, 10:43:58 PM »
Yep drysider, the land of smoke and fires! I will just the the 25pts towards Elk

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Re: Taneum Herd Sept 9, 2012
« Reply #42 on: September 12, 2012, 11:01:50 PM »
Welfare Elk

Ding ding ding!!! Nice job!! I've never heard them called that before and it's so true and hilarious!

That was the reason we shot the bull it was costing us all $$$ in hay!!! Not a big fan of welfare system I guess! :tup:

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Re: Taneum Herd Sept 9, 2012
« Reply #43 on: September 13, 2012, 12:17:42 AM »
When I lived in the Yakima area we called all the elk in the Naches area welfare elk with the feeding station there.

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Re: Taneum Herd Sept 9, 2012
« Reply #44 on: September 13, 2012, 06:07:09 AM »
to clarifiy the situation there , i used to hunt that spot and sit on elk comming and going from there . Then a couple of guys that where connected with the krd went in and set tree stands and bait in there right next to the fields . they would bugger the elk outta there . on said he had stuck a cow and lost it or didn't even pursue it . I dropped my gear and went in to a no shooting zone in the bottom of rattle snake to track the blood trail btw the boundry at the time was the cannell wich is under ground right there so even the boundry was in ????. then the lazy *censored* called the game dept . a warden came up and questioned me we cleared up the matter and the guy from krd never pursued it . i did jump then wounded cow out of there but she went hell bent towards eburg . so be carefull who the fingers get pointed towards . And there's quiet a few guys in that huch area that load up a spot with tons of mineral then sit on it not much diff really . Since I've left that camp for other reasons and as for how they hunt it in the past two years I don't know .  :twocents:

i'm the lazy *censored* i took a welfare elk and it was timothy fed but i shot it outside the safety zone and i did recover it. i left my bow and tracked out into the field, marked last blood and two guys on the hill above pointed me in her last direction. i didnt track her immediately because i didnt want to push her and wouldn't ya know she followed the creek back and died just outside the safety zone near where i shot her, we found her that morning. called the game warden on 2 guys with bows in the safety zone days later. also the canal is underground but being connected with krd i know the boundaries very well, I'm not sure what you were trying to say but it sounds like your confused where the boundary is?
that must be a differnet cow my friend and good for you following up on your shot . the cow i tracked ended up in the private property to the east . and yes I know that boundry very well , the real sticky part is between the barbwire fence and the canal and now that they have changed the boundry to the elk fence the very west tip is difficult to pinpoint a lil better signage and a slight boundry change to the base of that hill would fix the problem down there (but then those two tree stands in the edge of the field would be off limits) .

 


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