WDFW plans to eliminate wolf pack UPDATE! 2 down

[fair-chase]

I wonder at what point they will consider this pack "eliminated"...

  That's the million dollar question right there.


According to WDFW's own standards, they would only have to shoot one wolf to essentially eliminate a "pack". I'm sorry that I may be a bit cynical here, but until the department shows proof of action, I will continue to be highly skeptical of their motives.

Don't get me wrong, I'm elated that they (Anderson particularly) finally decided to grow a pair and persue a course of action. I'm just waiting to see the final outcome before I start passing out the praises to the department.

[CedarPants]

Key point to keep in mind is that as far as WDFW is concerned, there is a difference between a "pack" and a "breeding pair".

A very big difference

[denali]

I went ahead and sent an email thanking the director and the WDFW for making the tough decision, come Monday morning when they open their email the puppy pimps will have inundated them with threats of law suits,tears, political bulling ..and on an on.

Now whether they go through with the kill order?  time will tell

[Buckblaster]

It was just a couple of weeks ago that the media said the governor had 10,000 letters opposing the removal of the Wedge pack and none in support of it.  I believe that we finally made a difference supporting the cattlemen by flooding WDFW and others with letters/emails to remove the pack.  I know alot of other things came into play but I'm just glad for any reason that they finally made a common sense decision.  Common sense is not common in governmental affairs.

[WAcoyotehunter]

I wonder at what point they will consider this pack "eliminated"...

  That's the million dollar question right there.


According to WDFW's own standards, they would only have to shoot one wolf to essentially eliminate a "pack". I'm sorry that I may be a bit cynical here, but until the department shows proof of action, I will continue to be highly skeptical of their motives.

Don't get me wrong, I'm elated that they (Anderson particularly) finally decided to grow a pair and persue a course of action. I'm just waiting to see the final outcome before I start passing out the praises to the department.

They're going to try to kill the whole pack- not one animal.  They want all 8-10 of them gone.  The WDFW is doing all they can on this situation- it's actually a really sad deal.  The cattleman are losing, the conservation caucus is losing, and hunters are losing. 
Everyone knew that wolves would eventually cause some trouble- admittidly, I am suprised it came this quickly and in such a big way.  That pack has to go and I'm glad the WDFW is holding to their end of the agreement in the plan.

[nwwanderer]

For the WDFW, a good path.  Not an easy one.  I would expect pack fragmentation and some serious wolf walks as a few individuals are taken. 

[Silent-one]

I guess I'm a little skeptic on this. I agree the entire pack needs to be removed, I just dont understand how WDFW thinks they can accomplish this. They have a collared one animal, they dont even know how many are in this pack. They have been trying for the last 4 weeks to remove up to 4 animals from the pack and have not been able to remove any. In my opinion if the order has been approved to remove the entire pack then the WDFW can continue to try on there own, but it should be opened up for all licensed hunters as well.

The entire "WEDGE" should be a shoot on site for the next 3 years to confirm the entire removal of the pack....... According to there own plan a pack must have a successful breeding pair for three consecutive years.....

[Jack Diamond]

To admit the pack is a problem is a milestone. And I applaud the director and staff. How it's accomplished will be interesting.

[LRP]

Removing the Wedge pack or any pack will not be easy, no matter who is given the opportunity.  Just look at the states that have a season and how many wolves are taken in those states with the general public doing the hunting, quota's are not being reached.  Most hunters do not have the time to do the scouting and work necessary to be successful.  Given the terrain and vegetation in that area it is not going to be easy.  But the order has been given and the work has started thanks to the director and his courage.  I believe its only because of the wolf plan and the federal delisting east of Hwy 97 that the removal is possible.

[buckcanyonlodge]

WDFW personnel used the Colville shooting range on Friday... Must be sighting in so no wolves get away!!

[Ridgeratt]

I wonder at what point they will consider this pack "eliminated"...

So what happens when this "transient pack" heads across the border and they don't have any to shoot for a while. When they come back are they a new pack then? Some of the area these wolves are running is nothing more than the 30 foot cut on the border for a boundary.

They couldn't eliminate them back in the late 40's with out the use of aerial gunners and Poisoning so what makes them think they can do it now?

[Jack Diamond]

They have taken the proper stance with the kill order. However we can believe they will not achieve removal of the pack, by gunning, in any way,shape or form. If it was opened up to hunt wolves in this area alone,to all hunters it should improve the odds, however I understand why they may not consider such action.

Better yet let the ranchers kill any wolf they see, after all they have the bait.

Trapping will also only be marginally effective, IMHO.

So perhaps the best thing to do is as has been suggested before.

Treat wolves like Coyotes east of the Cascade crest, open year round , no bag limit.and not just east of 97.  I guarantee we will still have wolves , but they will not be so brazen.

[CAMPMEAT]

WDFW personnel used the Colville shooting range on Friday... Must be sighting in so no wolves get away!!

..............I thought the WDFW had " SNIPERS " ? I bet they are nothing more than a Kalifornia college person that doesn't know squat about hunting or marksmanship, or anything else !!! 

[boneaddict]

Get real, the only way they are going to get the lot is if they us poison and we all know that isn't going to happen.   

[Jack Diamond]

Get real, the only way they are going to get the lot is if they us poison and we all know that isn't going to happen.   

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And if they did we would never know.