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Offline Jim the Plumber

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New load for the new rifle = 1.25" @590 yards
« on: September 30, 2012, 04:47:27 PM »
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130 Berger over 42.2 H4350, CCI 450 in a 6.5X47 Lapua netted this 3 shot group at 590 yards.



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Re: New load for the new rifle = 1.25" @590 yards
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2012, 05:05:00 PM »
That's just plain Sick.  Not even in my dreams could I do that.
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Re: New load for the new rifle = 1.25" @590 yards
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2012, 05:05:43 PM »
dang! Thats bad ass! Makes me want to spend a ton on a more accurate setup!

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Re: New load for the new rifle = 1.25" @590 yards
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2012, 05:15:14 PM »
Holy crap!!!

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Re: New load for the new rifle = 1.25" @590 yards
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2012, 05:54:07 PM »
Wow,That is amazing  :drool:

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Re: New load for the new rifle = 1.25" @590 yards
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2012, 06:58:15 PM »
Come On JTP....I told you that load worked well.  We have only shot around 15K on that load in comps and it seemed to work perfectly!  Now you just have to load ammo like the rest of us and not on your dillon :chuckle:.  That is why I have 4 chargemasters!
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Re: New load for the new rifle = 1.25" @590 yards
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2012, 07:37:31 PM »
Travis, I'm still sizing, priming, and seating on the Dillon 550.
I threw these from my slightly modded RCBS thrower. Checked every 10th. My Redding comp seater shines the ogive too much for my taste, so I'm getting a Forester. I think a drop tube is in my future as well. 42.2 fills  the 6.5.  And this shoots better in once fired cases so far.

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Re: New load for the new rifle = 1.25" @590 yards
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2012, 06:24:06 AM »
what kind of glass you have on that thing?

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Re: New load for the new rifle = 1.25" @590 yards
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2012, 06:27:54 AM »
Well.......I suppose that will do, if that's all the better you can shoot........  :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:  :tung:
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Re: New load for the new rifle = 1.25" @590 yards
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2012, 10:56:09 AM »
what kind of glass you have on that thing?

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Re: New load for the new rifle = 1.25" @590 yards
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2012, 11:03:28 AM »
Wow, that's just beyond impressive.
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Re: New load for the new rifle = 1.25" @590 yards
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2012, 12:25:34 PM »
where is that range looks like neat place to shoot,how far maxium.

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Re: New load for the new rifle = 1.25" @590 yards
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2012, 06:59:17 PM »
lmao...... you want to impress me have a blind man take the wheel  :yike:  :bdid: :chuckle:

seriously that is (*^&%(*%(*&^%(&*^% shooting  ;)
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Re: New load for the new rifle = 1.25" @590 yards
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2012, 07:15:57 PM »
Jim the Plumber you put out impressive shots.  I admire your ability and would like to ask a elementary question.

I shoot more than the average guy and but far from the hobbyist.  When I see groups like this from you and lesser but still imprssive groups from other my question is wheher the rifle is under additional aid.  Meaning a lead sled, elctronic guidance, or other.  What I am saying is do you guys do something to take the human element out of the shot to guage the rifle more on the rifle accuracy with less human error?

In summary I feel I may have extremely accurate rifles but they are only as accurate as I can shoot them, accurate to my limitations so do you implement aids to take out the human element?

I can appreciate that you and others shoot so much you tune in your shooting skills as well but on such close groups at such a range I was just wondering if you enthusiasts use such aids.

Thanks.
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Re: New load for the new rifle = 1.25" @590 yards
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2012, 07:47:26 PM »
Jim the Plumber you put out impressive shots.  I admire your ability and would like to ask a elementary question.

I shoot more than the average guy and but far from the hobbyist.  When I see groups like this from you and lesser but still impressive groups from other my question is whether the rifle is under additional aid.  Meaning a lead sled, electronic guidance, or other.  What I am saying is do you guys do something to take the human element out of the shot to gage the rifle more on the rifle accuracy with less human error?

In summary I feel I may have extremely accurate rifles but they are only as accurate as I can shoot them, accurate to my limitations so do you implement aids to take out the human element?

I can appreciate that you and others shoot so much you tune in your shooting skills as well but on such close groups at such a range I was just wondering if you enthusiasts use such aids.

Thanks.

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 I don't use any 'electronic aids'.
 You really must have a solid foundation to start with. This is where classes can help. If you are doing it wrong, you can shoot thousands of rounds a year and still suck.
 Start with a rifle from a reputable builder and instructions from a reputable teacher. This lays the great foundation. The rest, then, is up to you.
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Re: New load for the new rifle = 1.25" @590 yards
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2012, 07:49:14 PM »
 :tup:
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Re: New load for the new rifle = 1.25" @590 yards
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2012, 07:55:02 PM »
Jim the Plumber you put out impressive shots.  I admire your ability and would like to ask a elementary question.

I shoot more than the average guy and but far from the hobbyist.  When I see groups like this from you and lesser but still imprssive groups from other my question is wheher the rifle is under additional aid.  Meaning a lead sled, elctronic guidance, or other.  What I am saying is do you guys do something to take the human element out of the shot to guage the rifle more on the rifle accuracy with less human error?

In summary I feel I may have extremely accurate rifles but they are only as accurate as I can shoot them, accurate to my limitations so do you implement aids to take out the human element?

I can appreciate that you and others shoot so much you tune in your shooting skills as well but on such close groups at such a range I was just wondering if you enthusiasts use such aids.

Thanks.

..its all in the trigger finger..the gun isnt moving regardless of rest

really the only concern in my opinion is whether it was an unintentional group..but looking at the rifle im sure he has repeated this result to some extent..which is pretty freeekn good  :tup: congrats

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Re: New load for the new rifle = 1.25" @590 yards
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2012, 08:15:57 PM »
Jim the Plumber you put out impressive shots.  I admire your ability and would like to ask a elementary question.

I shoot more than the average guy and but far from the hobbyist.  When I see groups like this from you and lesser but still impressive groups from other my question is whether the rifle is under additional aid.  Meaning a lead sled, electronic guidance, or other.  What I am saying is do you guys do something to take the human element out of the shot to gage the rifle more on the rifle accuracy with less human error?

In summary I feel I may have extremely accurate rifles but they are only as accurate as I can shoot them, accurate to my limitations so do you implement aids to take out the human element?

I can appreciate that you and others shoot so much you tune in your shooting skills as well but on such close groups at such a range I was just wondering if you enthusiasts use such aids.

Thanks.

99% of my shooting is prone, Harris bi pod up front and a Redman mini bean bag under the butt stock.
 I don't use any 'electronic aids'.
 You really must have a solid foundation to start with. This is where classes can help. If you are doing it wrong, you can shoot thousands of rounds a year and still suck.
 Start with a rifle from a reputable builder and instructions from a reputable teacher. This lays the great foundation. The rest, then, is up to you.
 As an aside, I'd rather get kicked in the nuts than use a lead sled.

Thanks man.  This has been a long time question of mine that you have given me the opportunity to ask and then very generous in your response.  Appreciate the information and thank you.  Dan.
« Last Edit: October 01, 2012, 08:37:21 PM by dscubame »
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Re: New load for the new rifle = 1.25" @590 yards
« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2012, 08:35:44 PM »
Wow, awesome group! :tup:
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Re: New load for the new rifle = 1.25" @590 yards
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2012, 09:57:15 AM »
Jim is right on.  Its all about fundamentals and a good platform.  All of my shooting and testing is done prone in the dirt with a bipod and rear bag.  Here is a 300yd group from my Edge a few years ago getting ready for hunting season.  Same rifle has shot several sub 4" groups at 1k from the same positioning.  Lead sleds hurt accuracy more than help.



15 shot group from 308 during breakin
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Re: New load for the new rifle = 1.25" @590 yards
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2012, 10:00:52 AM »
impressive shooting....  :tup:
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Re: New load for the new rifle = 1.25" @590 yards
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2012, 10:16:48 AM »
Very impressive.

Please don't take this wrong; it's a sincere question: is this type of group typical?

I've shot some very good groups at distance, but not every time. If you shot 10 groups with this combination, would there be much deviation in the group sizes?

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Re: New load for the new rifle = 1.25" @590 yards
« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2012, 10:22:59 AM »
If the shooter is up to it and can dope conditions, or has a no wind day, then things are pretty consistent.  Key word here being the shooter!
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Re: New load for the new rifle = 1.25" @590 yards
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2012, 10:30:23 AM »
 :yike: That's crazy! I can't even get a group that tight at 100 yards consistently.

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Re: New load for the new rifle = 1.25" @590 yards
« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2012, 12:19:03 PM »
Very impressive.

Please don't take this wrong; it's a sincere question: is this type of group typical?

I've shot some very good groups at distance, but not every time. If you shot 10 groups with this combination, would there be much deviation in the group sizes?

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Re: New load for the new rifle = 1.25" @590 yards
« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2012, 12:49:56 PM »
500 yards...............

I'm going to say no way is that group a fluke.

On a more positive note, I can shoot even tighter groups than that out to 500 yards.   My secret is that at that distance I shoot 1-shoot groups.   It keeps them very tight.

Thanks for haring.   I wish I had the rifle, but even with the rifle, I couldn't make 3-shot groups like that.     Very impressive.
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Re: New load for the new rifle = 1.25" @590 yards
« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2012, 03:06:42 PM »
So JTP who taught you to shoot? Is it some one from these forums?
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