An instructor sure pissed me off today!

[iusmc2002]

Sucks that you wasted your time but I can't say I blame the guy much. When I am in a class on time and people start trickling in 5-10-15-20 minutes late and disrupting the class it pisses me off bigtime! It takes away from those who took the extra care to be on time. 

Any time I am going somewhere new to meet someone or attend some kind of function I give myself a huge time cushion out of respect for the people I am meeting. I also go over my route on a map the day before. Anyone who has fished or hunted with me much knows that I am chronically 15+ minutes EARLY, it's basic courtesy and there appears to be a few in this thread who don't grasp this. Show up 15 minutes late to the launch to fish and you will probably be doing some swimming to get to my boat if you want to join me!

Can't blame the guy much?  He took the time to walk out and give them a ration of *censored* about being late, while he was supposed to be instructing.....  Makes a lot of sense.  Best part is, he turns a 12 year old boy away, did the kid drive himself, or did his parents screw him over?  So now the kid gets punished for something his parents possibly caused.  "Thanks mom and dad, for giving this *censored* a reason to get his rocks off by turning me away"

Comparing this to the military is moronic at best.  It has no bearing on whether he was on time or not.  Congrats there Superman, you served and it made you more AWESOMER! 

[predatorpro]

Predatorpro, here is link to the form to apply for the one year hunter ed deferral.

http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/huntered/files/hunter_ed_deferral_application.pdf

Be sure to send in the  required ID copies and the accompanying hunter has to have had a license for three years.
good luck.

awesome thanks!!! i really appreciate it!

[predatorpro]

For the record I met PP and he helped me with the Desert Unit last year. Good guy.

I'll help you with your GPS if you help me with some coyote tips

ok last post on this for me...i never once said i was entitled or my wife was to get what we want cuz we werent there on time, i like how people try to make me out as a spoiled little brat who throws a fit when i dont get what i want...i never said it wasnt his right to tell us no, his attitude towards us when he told us is what made me the most mad he came out there with a big ol *censored* eating grin and told us we cant come in....i dont know what its like to be like some of you on here like your just gods gift to the earth...for some reason i seriously doubt you are that amazing...but i could be wrong...even tho some of you post on here all the time about how much better you are than everyone else....good luck in life! maybe some day ill run in to you on the side of the road with a broken truck and ill just have to tell you with a big grin on my face! "well i guess you should brought the right tool to fix that! hope you learned your lesson!" while i leave you there!

hey thanks ribka! i wish i could have done more for ya on that desert hunt! i was really stoked to help you out i just couldnt get away from stuff at home when the season opened! if you want to let me know we can get out and call some coyotes in for sure this winter!

[Huntbear]

Actually spoke to an instructor today, while shooting.  He was shocked.  He had kids up there shooting as well.  Several were not allowed to shoot due to paperwork errors.

The instructor I spoke with, even agreed with turning this other guy into the state.  Filing a formal complaint. 

[brew]

being a certified instructor myself let me say that i can see both sides of the issue here.  We teach 2 week long classes each spring and have certified online applicants the past two weeks up in Eatonville at the Upper Nisqually Sportsmans Club.  If the instructor has set a starting time I can see them within their guidelines of denying a late participant- unfortunately these are the rules- should there be flexibility in the start times of the class? is there flexibility in the laws pertaining to hunting ? No.... You can't start hunting 5 minutes before legal shooting light or shoot an animal just across the road from your legal hunting area.  I know the situation sucks for you and your wife of trying to get her certified and the time and expense you incurred.  as was stated above just pay the $20 waiver fee for her to hunt this year and get her certified for next year...if you have kids get them enrolled in a hunter ed course also....we are losing hunter numbers at a staggering pace and all need to band together to ensure this privelege is handed down and not taken away.  Good luck and please don't let the actions of one person (right or wrong) sour you on the entire hunter ed system. we are all volunteering our time to ensure this tradition is passed down to future generations.

[dscubame]

rules are rules....common sense is common sense.

[ICEMAN]

Showing up 15 minutes late is 30 minutes late IMHO, especially to some place I have never been before.

So is 20 minutes late OK too? How about 30...?  In my opinion, it is best to stick to your guns on a policy like this, this way it is an easier decision, you end up applying your policy fairly to everyone. We all have reasons we could be late. 

[dscubame]

Its not about applying a policy "blanket" to everyone it is about taking it one decision at a time based on the circumstances.  Again common sense.

I guarantee you a guy walks in 10 - 15 minutes late in Rosalia hunters Ed is not going to get a second look.

[ICEMAN]

It's like writing a speeding ticket.... pick a speed you are comfortable with writing a ticket for, and write it for anyone over that limit. Simple.

[dscubame]

It's like writing a speeding ticket.... pick a speed you are comfortable with writing a ticket for, and write it for anyone over that limit. Simple.

lol.  That is a moronic comparison.  Sorry speaking my mind.

[h20hunter]

Eat your puke........nice.....gonna write that down and really burn somebody good.

[dscubame]

Next time your late somewhere even though it is a rare deal I hope a light bulb goes off in your head about your posts on this thread. 

[Atroxus]

....we are losing hunter numbers at a staggering pace and all need to band together to ensure this privelege is handed down and not taken away. 

But lets be jerks to potential new hunters instead of maybe giving them the benefit of the doubt and doing our best to help them?  I get the whole being late thing, and I hate being late myself. But in a situation like this where they were very likely not even past the "Let's all get to know eachother" portion of the class I see absolutely no reason that the instructor could not have cut them a little slack. I also find it odd that there are people defending the instructor, considering *how* the instructor went about it.  If I decide to get certified to teach hunter education I would only refuse a late-comer if the class was already far enough that it would be disruptive to let them in. I would not go back over already covered material to benefit a late-comer, and if I did refuse them I would try to at least be polite about it though. 

It's like writing a speeding ticket.... pick a speed you are comfortable with writing a ticket for, and write it for anyone over that limit. Simple.

Actually I am pretty sure that is how cops do it. I don't hear of many people getting pulled over for going 3 mph over the speed limit. 

[ICEMAN]

It's like writing a speeding ticket.... pick a speed you are comfortable with writing a ticket for, and write it for anyone over that limit. Simple.

lol.  That is a moronic comparison.  Sorry speaking my mind.

It is all good.

If I was an instructor, with lots of folks arriving late over the years, I would have developed my own set point for folks getting to stay or not. "Sorry folks, it's my policy."

Nobody said volunteering to teach a bunch of folks you do not know was going to make you Mr. Popular. 

[ICEMAN]

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It's like writing a speeding ticket.... pick a speed you are comfortable with writing a ticket for, and write it for anyone over that limit. Simple.

Actually I am pretty sure that is how cops do it. I don't hear of many people getting pulled over for going 3 mph over the speed limit. 

  I know for a fact that it is...