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Re: bring pistol side arm when elk hunting???
« Reply #45 on: September 06, 2008, 05:08:31 PM »
Law enforcement officers enforce the law. If you break the law you will be cited, arrested or what ever is appropriate. Carrying a gun while archery hunting is a violation and I think 99.9% will cite you. It is the job. They do not make the laws they enforce them. I am in enforcement and I would be completely disgusted with any officer that does not enforce the law. I think the law should be changed for muzzleloaders and archery but until it is changed it is the law.
Is it ok for some pot head to smoke because he thinks it is ok??> Hell NO! Is it ok for a cop to let it go because he thinks other drugs are worse?? hell no. Deciding to charge you is not up to the cop it is up to the prosecuter.
You can carry concealed and try to get away with it, you can drink and drive and try to get away, you can smoke dope and try to get away, what makes you any different than any other criminal? If break the law pay the price and dont whine to me.
This whole thread makes me want to puke, what kind of eliteist ass thinks they are above the law? If you feel you need protection that is outside of legal in some situation, DONT GET IN THAT SITUATION.
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« Last Edit: September 06, 2008, 05:23:40 PM by Bofire »
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Re: bring pistol side arm when elk hunting???
« Reply #46 on: September 06, 2008, 06:16:32 PM »
Yes, there will always be the Inspector Javert approach to the law.

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Re: bring pistol side arm when elk hunting???
« Reply #47 on: September 06, 2008, 06:51:22 PM »
Wearing a pistol to look cool? Dude when in the reprod, stalking the Big Timber just who are you being cool too?

Regardless of the season I am always packin a pistol when I exit my rig, either my S&W .460 or my Desert Eagle .50cal

Why? First and foremost is when on a walk & stalk the brush, reprod can close in on you where a pistol offers the best chance for a good quick shot. Then when the conditions change I switch to my .300Weatherby X 7mm

Second I just feel a tad bit more comfortable having a second firearm with me. Yes both of my pistols are hogs and that extra five plus pounds tucked in between my belly button and belt can at times need an adjustment but I have been doing this for the past 18 seasons.

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Re: bring pistol side arm when elk hunting???
« Reply #48 on: September 06, 2008, 07:04:38 PM »
I always carried a 5 shot 357 while bow hunting,I carry that everywhere I go out of the field,I do have a cwp.when Im rifle hunting I carry a44mag.Better to have and not need it than to need it and not have it :twocents:

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Re: bring pistol side arm when elk hunting???
« Reply #49 on: September 06, 2008, 07:29:42 PM »
"Les Miserables" is a novel and a terrible simplistic movie that does not stick to the novel, not real life.
Keep in  mind the LEO can not only cite you they can confiscate. I carry 24/7, when I muzzle loader hunted I did not, I do not bow hunt, if I did I would not carry.
I understand wanting to be able to protect yourself, and like I said I think the law is wrong and should be changed. I find it funny so many bad mouth so many law breakers then violate laws them selves. Keep in mind a few violations and you'll lose your hunting privlige for life.

Tell me how do you decide which ones to obey??
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Re: bring pistol side arm when elk hunting???
« Reply #50 on: September 07, 2008, 02:29:51 PM »
Hey Bofire, just a thought, since you did mention that your in Law Enforcement. How many times do you violate the speed limit on and or of duty and just for fun sake a violation means "Anything" over the posted speed limit?

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Re: bring pistol side arm when elk hunting???
« Reply #51 on: September 07, 2008, 07:44:33 PM »
First thing is, it is not a violation for an officer to exceed the speed limit, do U-turns etc.. Second  :chuckle: :chuckle: I spend 90% of my time in an office. I respond to Arson, Haz, Mat. and  fire related death.
The vast majority of my job is tactical response plans and training.  Perhaps some assumption examination is in order?

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Re: bring pistol side arm when elk hunting???
« Reply #52 on: September 08, 2008, 08:57:25 AM »
ive been under a tree with a lion above me alone and no gun or any weapon, 20min for the group to get there. but lucky for me i had a bunch of hounds at my back :chuckle:

!!!!!! Scaaaarrrryyyy.  I'm more nervous about the people though truthfull then the animals (if I had to rank the scare order).  I have been out in area's waiting for a gate to be opened or something and been in a known "meth" area for hunting.  I refuse to even close my eyes for ten minutes waiting on my hunting partner to get there for fear I'll wake up with a meth head with a gun wanting all my money and my guns. 

It's a scary world out there, and it's much better to be safe then sorry.

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Re: bring pistol side arm when elk hunting???
« Reply #53 on: September 08, 2008, 09:08:15 AM »
Not an  assumption Carl just a straight forward question, do you or have you exceeded the speed limit, ( I guess this is where I failed to clearly explain my question ) when off duty, ( and please don't tell me your never off duty ) and in your own POV and not en-gauged in "on duty" activity.

I hope that's clear enough for you Carl. Just one more thought, when you mentioned that if an officer of the Law caught someone in violation they should without a forethought site the individual simply because they were in violation and not let the perp off?  So I take it, and yes this is an assumption here, that your a " Letter Of The Law Officer " ?  

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Re: bring pistol side arm when elk hunting???
« Reply #54 on: September 08, 2008, 10:01:43 AM »
Not an  assumption Carl just a straight forward question, do you or have you exceeded the speed limit, ( I guess this is where I failed to clearly explain my question ) when off duty, ( and please don't tell me your never off duty ) and in your own POV and not en-gauged in "on duty" activity.

I hope that's clear enough for you Carl. Just one more thought, when you mentioned that if an officer of the Law caught someone in violation they should without a forethought site the individual simply because they were in violation and not let the perp off?  So I take it, and yes this is an assumption here, that your a " Letter Of The Law Officer " ?  

Actually, Carl is wrong.  IT IS ILLIGAL for an officer to speed UNLESS they are responding to a emergency call.  There is a huge article about an on duty officer who got a camera ticket.

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Re: bring pistol side arm when elk hunting???
« Reply #55 on: September 08, 2008, 12:51:58 PM »
"I hope that's clear enough for you Carl. Just one more thought, when you mentioned that if an officer of the Law caught someone in violation they should without a forethought site the individual simply because they were in violation and not let the perp off?"

I did not make that statement. But next time you "accidently carry an illegal firearm while archery hunting" you tell the Cop/Judge it was just a mistake. Apparently you think a good cop should let you carry illegally. When should a Cop cite you for this?

Next time you see a Trooper beside I-5 running radar you be sure to stop and tell him he can't do that.

I have been stopped once in the last 25 years, by a small town Officer, he told me he stopped me "because he thought I was going to speed" I did not, he did not write me. Last, Yes if i get stopped I will expect to be cited.

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Re: bring pistol side arm when elk hunting???
« Reply #56 on: September 08, 2008, 02:58:02 PM »
Still avoiding the question Carl so I will assume that you have broken the speed limit like the rest of us who regardless of doing so on purpose or just didn't realize that the flow of traffic was in excess of posted limits.

..................and that last comment about the Officer stopping you because he "thought" you were going to speed leaves me LMAO Carl.

................and if you do get stopped I am thinking that somehow your in Law Enforcement will arise and in hopes that you dont get cited and have to part with a few Washingtons, Lincolns & Jacksons.


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Re: bring pistol side arm when elk hunting???
« Reply #57 on: September 08, 2008, 03:01:52 PM »
..........just one more thing Barney, I dont hunt with a Bow, never have and more than likely never will. Nothing in my opinion can replace the report of a rifle or pistol along with the smell of gunpowder.

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Re: bring pistol side arm when elk hunting???
« Reply #58 on: September 08, 2008, 05:47:22 PM »
I carry when I bow hunt.
Am I breaking the law?  Yes
Will I accept the ticket politely?  Yes
Will I ask for a jury of my peers?  You bet
Will I mention to the jury the legal term known as "jury nullification"?  Absolutely!
I will be judged by my peers.
Not by a law enforcement officer.
Not by a judge.
But my peers who can relate to me and the reason I made the decision to carry based on the 2nd Amendment and my CWP.
Now that's real...

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Re: bring pistol side arm when elk hunting???
« Reply #59 on: September 08, 2008, 06:07:08 PM »


I did not make that statement. But next time you "accidently carry an illegal firearm while archery hunting" you tell the Cop/Judge it was just a mistake. Apparently you think a good cop should let you carry illegally. When should a Cop cite you for this?

Technically it is not an "illegal firearm", just for those that are keeping score.




 


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