Looking for a Chocolate Lab pup updated found dog

[Happy Gilmore]

Oh and Highside do your research and educate yourself and you'll make the right decision when the time comes. Visit multiple breeders look at the pups and leave the kids at home the first time you go look at a litter. Too many times the wrong pup was bought on impulse because the kids think "they're so cute" please daddy please!! Once you decide on a breeder and a litter bring the kids back to see them. Don't get caught up on color either you may look at a litter and the cute fuzzy little black or yellow one may just be for you.

This is a good place to research the quarterly reports. With that being said; these are dogs who are being tested which are likely owned by folks who are responsible breeders. The folks who know pedigrees, take the time to know which combinations produce bad stuff and should be avoided spend many hours going through these reports. They follow up on their own breedings results and track their histories. Many hours go in just wading through reports. These stats are real. This is one reason why one might choose to pay a little more money for someone who is really trying hard to produce good blood versus someone who doesn't care at all and just wants their kids to see a dog have puppies and put some green in their back pocket for letting their friends dog get some action with their bitch in the backyard.

http://www.offa.org/reports.html?quarter=web15-Oct-12up.zip&breed=LR&btnSelect=Select

No nerves struck on the chessies- It was in good jest- There are statistics and lots of them available. Not Google stuff. Right off the OFA website. DNA testing, Elbows, Hips, eyes, CNM, EIC..... What do you want for "real" stats? they are all right here. This is where conclusions come from, real science. Unbiased information.

[Happy Gilmore]

And to be helpful; 

There is a possibility that a 11 month old Chessie might need a home. I got a call from someones' friend of a friend of a friend. Supposed to be a very nice dog but, owner is young and has to move to an apartment type of reason?

I'll post up when I hear something. I know of a black lab with a little training who may be available for a very reasonable price...maybe in your range?

[Special T]

Happy yourve turned intoqute the doggy match maker...And all your great advice..

Dear Happy,
I have a wonderful Chessapeake bay retriever that loves to hunt. He listened fairly well to me before training and even better now that he has been trained. He was the runt of the litter and the last one to leave the mom. He has always had food agression issues and my wife thew down the ultimatum that he get clipped or else, so i folded. I have done every thing possible to try and break him from being over protective of his food. what advice can you give me?
Sincerly
Fat and happy

 
 

[Happy Gilmore]

Happy yourve turned intoqute the doggy match maker...And all your great advice..

Dear Happy,
I have a wonderful Chessapeake bay retriever that loves to hunt. He listened fairly well to me before training and even better now that he has been trained. He was the runt of the litter and the last one to leave the mom. He has always had food agression issues and my wife thew down the ultimatum that he get clipped or else, so i folded. I have done every thing possible to try and break him from being over protective of his food. what advice can you give me?
Sincerly
Fat and happy

 

Feed him alone in the garage inside a kennel and watch your fingers. 

[Caseyd]

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,109230.msg0/topicseen.html#new

[cem3434]

No nerves struck on the chessies- It was in good jest- There are statistics and lots of them available. Not Google stuff. Right off the OFA website. DNA testing, Elbows, Hips, eyes, CNM, EIC..... What do you want for "real" stats? they are all right here. This is where conclusions come from, real science. Unbiased information.

I still dont see anything on the OFA website supporting your ignorant and completely bias comments about chocolate labs.  There is no "real science" backing your statement that chocolates are more likely to have health issues because of their color.  I have spoke to several other Labrador breeders and veterinarians and I have failed to find one person who supports your theory. 

[Happy Gilmore]

You'd have to be asking pedigree specific questions. I don't know many vets who know a thing about pedigrees. They don't have time for it. They focus on medicine.

There are two good examples right now. One is a popular Field Trial Chocolate and the other is a popular show(English Style) Chocolate. They both became very popular for breeding because of their successs in their said venues. (Admittedly, this happens all the time with the other colors) What brings it to the top of the pile with Chocolates is the smaller numbers. (similar with Chessies issues) When there are 100,000 labs born a year and 1,000 are chocolate, lets say 250 have a common sire due to popularity, the statistics stop working in your favor.

I personally have a friend with a dog who's broken down early from the field trial line and have a different friend who's dog died young from the show line. With the two, neither are a "one time" occurance. People across the nation are having the same problems. With that being said, I know you're thinking well, that's just "two" pedigree's. Well, true but, two very popular pedigrees in their respective venues. Now, folks are steering away from those two "MAJOR" pedigree's. Major meaning, folks who know and study pedigrees(not your local vets or backyard breeders) won't touch a Chocolate from specific lines.

Brings me to why I posted the OFA results site. There are breeders who print those quarterly reports off and highlight and flag health results of dogs related to their own dogs. They study the health test results of other breedings and compare it to how it may match up with their own dog. They do the same for dogs of interest who they might consider breeding or bringing into their own pedigree. Very few breeders do this and even fewer vets take the time to get to know the pedigrees deeply and what health concerns come along with each potential line.

For a field trialer, the pedigree might have perfect health clearances but, an inherited disposition to have bad line manners/noise. People who "know" and study pedigrees walk away from a dog which might be known to produce specific traits. Think of people knowledgable in dog pedigrees as being like guys who are excellent car mechanics and guru's. They'll tell you why a '70 Mustang with the same HP as a '69 Camaro will do better in a 0-60 but, can't out run it in the 1/4 mile. Go to the Dealership and get the trained Ford Certified Mechanic and he'll tell you that your '70 Mustang is running properly. I don't know why you can't out run a '69 Camaro in the 1/4 mile but, you Mustang sure is running good.

[RC3]

I am sure they weren't trying to jack your thread, rather trying to help you not make a mistake.  There is a world of difference between dog breeders out there and for most people its just about making a couple bucks.  I don't even him personally just read his posts on here the last few years, and even being an informed dog person myself wouldn't question anything Happy has to say about dogs.  Just listen to his advice and you might learn something.

[highside74]

Well, here is my "not so chocolate lab" Luke. Thanks to jbar for finding this litter for me. His parents are to awesome to get hung up on color. His dad is Topper from kingsland labs. He was master hunter certified at 2 years old. His mom is a perfect lady hunting machine that also comes from a long line of great history. Thanks everyone for the help.

[highside74]

Here he is.

[ORCA_SIX]

Great looking pup. Glad you found one you could afford and liked.

[Curly]

Congrats on the new addition to the family.........