Remington 700 safety

[MountainWalk]

And dear Game Warden, how is it not different than a safety?  Is it possible to make a rifle fire with a safety on? Has that never happened? If the pin is under NO tension, what can it do?

[MountainWalk]

Who is teaching what?

[pianoman9701]

And dear Game Warden, how is it not different than a safety?  Is it possible to make a rifle fire with a safety on? Has that never happened? If the pin is under NO tension, what can it do?

As stated before, it can fire with a blow to the gun, such as dropping it. The pin is resting on the primer, so...

[BULLBLASTER]

I have seen at the range a person was trying to decock his gun for going home by closing the bolt while holding the trigger. It was loaded and went off. Shot a hole in the bench... I would definitely not trust a firing pin resting on a primer over a safety.... that's asking for trouble.

[Blacktail Sniper]

Not meant to offend you, just seems like if that is a real concern would be better to drop the pin on an empty chamber since the bolt has to be cycled either way.   

I guess when it comes to firearms and safety, because of the potential for severe injury and death, it seems that folks would want to do everything possible to be as safe as possible.

Not a game warden by the way, just someone who has handled firearms for decades and understands that things can happen and how fast it can happen and that you can't call the bullet back.

Again, not meant to insult you, appoligize if I did. 

[JLS]

To each their own I guess.  If I was going to have to cock the gun anyway I would just leave the chamber empty and the pin/hammer down.  Chamber a round when ready and let it fly.

I wouldn't be too excited about my hunting partner doing this, YMMV.

[pianoman9701]

My bolt locks when the safety is engage, but of course it is an older Rem 700, which I received back in 1976

Mine too. I bought my 700 Classic .30-06 in '74 or 5. Safety locks the bolt.

[jaymark6655]

Yeah, I wasn't even thinking about the safety part.  Was just wondering why carry round in the chamber if you still have to cycle bolt at least part way.

This might be of topic, but what is so great about having a firearm where the safety locks the bolt?  I know Savage does this and it never seemed to make sense to me.

[JLS]

Myi wife's Tikka has a safety that locks the bolt.  I prefer M70's with the three way safety, but it doesn't cause me any grief using the lock style when I swipe her gun.

[Blacktail Sniper]

Also, back to the original question, my 700 was made in 2010 or 2011 and the bolt will open when on safe.

[pianoman9701]

Yeah, I wasn't even thinking about the safety part.  Was just wondering why carry round in the chamber if you still have to cycle bolt at least part way.

This might be of topic, but what is so great about having a firearm where the safety locks the bolt? I know Savage does this and it never seemed to make sense to me.

I've often wondered this myself.

[Jburke]

Yeah, I wasn't even thinking about the safety part.  Was just wondering why carry round in the chamber if you still have to cycle bolt at least part way.

This might be of topic, but what is so great about having a firearm where the safety locks the bolt?  I know Savage does this and it never seemed to make sense to me.

The biggest benefit I have noticed with it is that if I am carrying my rifle over my shoulder on a sling that the bolt can catch on clothing, backpack, vest.  etc.  If the bolt locks closed it cant open up on you when dismounting the rifle from yor shoulder.  I had a gun that did not lock the bolt and it would catch on clothing once in awhile.  If the bolt turns adn you try to shoot without realizing it you'll be pretty pissed when the gun doesn't even go click. I personally like the two position safeties though.  That way I can lock it but then unload while still on safety.

[300rum]

Yes, for this reason.  I assume it was a military thing?  Clicks aren't good when you are looking down the end of another barrel.

Yeah, I wasn't even thinking about the safety part.  Was just wondering why carry round in the chamber if you still have to cycle bolt at least part way.

This might be of topic, but what is so great about having a firearm where the safety locks the bolt?  I know Savage does this and it never seemed to make sense to me.

The biggest benefit I have noticed with it is that if I am carrying my rifle over my shoulder on a sling that the bolt can catch on clothing, backpack, vest.  etc.  If the bolt locks closed it cant open up on you when dismounting the rifle from yor shoulder.  I had a gun that did not lock the bolt and it would catch on clothing once in awhile.  If the bolt turns adn you try to shoot without realizing it you'll be pretty pissed when the gun doesn't even go click. I personally like the two position safeties though.  That way I can lock it but then unload while still on safety.

[high country]

Yes, it's called breaking over the barrels. I have carried rifles afield in that manner, chambered with pin down. Yeah, pin is barely resting on primer, but it takes A HELLUVA FORCEFUL bump to get it to go off.

If you are carrying a chambered round on a decococked firing pin......STOP! You are making a great error that will some day result in an accidental discharge.

The stress on the sear is inconsequential the main spring may show some settling over time, but I have seen many a 30 year old rifles that have been stored cocked without issue.

Dont over think this non problem.

[JLS]

Dont over think this non problem.

C'mon bro, isn't that the new American way?