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Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #90 on: December 29, 2012, 08:38:51 PM »
Yes yes we all know that and that's not what we are talking about.
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Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #91 on: December 29, 2012, 09:00:47 PM »
Ok...... The contest is you can shoot any coyotes by any legal means..... It was easier to say that then to list every illegal means of hunting. You can not road hunt as that is illegal, you can not use a dog as a decoy as that is illegal. You get the point. The only thing I see is there should be an or rather than a and in the following statement "• All coyotes presented for final check in must be called in and/orharvested by legal means. Coyotes turned in that are determined to be harvested in any way other than legal means will be disqualified and the team will be disqualified. No road kill or trapped animals allowed." I hope this clears it up.
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Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #92 on: December 29, 2012, 09:23:59 PM »
Yep :tup: "called in and/or harvested by legal means" Not just calling.

So hope for good roads and the goldendale boys will give it hell :chuckle:
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Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #93 on: December 30, 2012, 04:48:44 AM »
Ok...... • All coyotes presented for final check in must be called in and/orharvested by legal means. Coyotes turned in that are determined to be harvested in any way other than legal means will be disqualified and the team will be disqualified. No road kill or trapped animals allowed." I hope this clears it up.
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Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #94 on: December 30, 2012, 06:45:43 AM »
Carpsniperg, i dont know how you got that i think i am better than everyone else just cause i was a litttle iffy on whether everyone would be on the up and up.  I apologize if it came off that way but I read the rules that they all had to be called.  That is totally fine that it is a body count and i even said in one of my post that i am all for road hunting and taking coyotes in any legal way if it is not causing danger to person or property.  You might want to go back and read it.  Im out for the tourney but hope you guys have a blast and cant wait to hear the results.  take care

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Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #95 on: December 30, 2012, 08:18:14 AM »
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Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #96 on: December 30, 2012, 05:52:31 PM »
Carpsniperg, i dont know how you got that i think i am better than everyone else just cause i was a litttle iffy on whether everyone would be on the up and up.  I apologize if it came off that way but I read the rules that they all had to be called.  That is totally fine that it is a body count and i even said in one of my post that i am all for road hunting and taking coyotes in any legal way if it is not causing danger to person or property.  You might want to go back and read it.  Im out for the tourney but hope you guys have a blast and cant wait to hear the results.  take care

This is what myself were talking about:

 "Nothing wrong with road hunting if that is how you want to spend your day hunting yotes, but by no means should you think of yourself as a coyote hunter that won a competition under those terms"

It made it sound like anyone who kills a coyote by other means is not a coyote hunter. I am a coyote hunter and just because I don't kill coyotes by only calling them in. Does not mean I am not a yote hunter who could win a contest. I have no problem with you but more then just myself thought your post to be putting others down. If you did not mean that I am sorry but that is how it was worded and came across.
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Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #97 on: December 30, 2012, 06:58:25 PM »
The first half of that sentence that you did not highlite explains the group i am talking about, (ROADHUNTERS).  Like was said before, road hunting is not legal and was commenting on those that actually road hunt.  My whole point for chiming in on this thread was to see how they try to stop cheating, because it will happen, and was commenting on those that do.  Shooting a coyote on the way into a stand is very much coyote hunting, spotting one in a field and getting out and getting in to position for a kill is very much coyote hunting.  Driving around and shooting from the truck with spotlights to win a competition does not deserve bragging rights and a prize for winning a competition.  I have been directing my words at the idea that some may cheat.  If you shoot 15 coyotes walking to all your stands and never make a single call, by all means, collect your prize and brag.  I dont know a ton of guys that are set up to hunt with spotlights outside of there vehicle.  Most lights must be ran, or at least charged with a vehicle.  Which will promote roadhunting.  Just saying, sorrry again if it came off as being an ass.  I was just saying that cheating will happen and it sucks to compete and have cheaters take home the win.

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Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #98 on: December 30, 2012, 07:12:06 PM »
I don't see the difference between walking to a stand and spotting one of the truck. Seems like right place right time. 

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Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #99 on: December 30, 2012, 07:14:48 PM »
I see what you are saying. Just got our signals crossed.
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Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #100 on: December 31, 2012, 01:29:45 PM »
Who is making the reservations at the Motel 6 in Pasco?  Please put me down for a room.  Anybody want to share it?

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Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #101 on: January 01, 2013, 07:09:51 PM »
Yes randy will clear this up but I AM postive that not only called coyotes will count. That is what the discussion is about.

No one said it was o.k to have a loaded gun or shoot from the rig. If people are driving private roads and shooting coyotes so be it. AS long as they are not shooting from a rig or having a loaded gun in the rig. Road hunting is not illegal. Shooting from a rig is and having a loaded firearm in the rig is. You can get out of a rig and shoot a coyote after you see one driving around. There is no law that says you cant road hunt :chuckle:

Gee, we seem to be making a real issue of this.  All methods of harvesting the coyote have to conform with the rules set by the WDFW.  In the rules it references calling and legal means of harvesting.  If you have a disabled hunter permit and have the paper work to prove it, it is than legal to abide by those guidelines,if you want to spotlight, so be it, if you want to call, so be it, as long as it is any LEGAL means.

This has (thanks to all the attention and bending) made for a rule clarification for future Classics should there be any.  It takes things like this to point out the weak points of things so they can be fixed.  Thanks for that part.

We intended to have a coyote hunting contest, share the outdoors with other sportsmen and women, enjoy a sport we all share interest in and have a good time.  Please let us have that . . .

Sorry if we confused anybody . . .

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Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #102 on: January 01, 2013, 08:42:59 PM »
anyone else counting days, getting gear ready, lookin at maps, talking game plans? 

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Re: Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #103 on: January 02, 2013, 05:38:13 AM »
anyone else counting days, getting gear ready, lookin at maps, talking game plans?

Yep, gear is all been reorganized, labeled and repacked... Going out this weekend just to verify zero, make sure there isn't any last minute gear I need and I'll be ready to go. Hopefully my weapon mounted light gets here before this weekend so I can learn how best to use it, rather then learning on the fly in the field... Counting the days now....going to be a long fun weekend.

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Re: Washington Predator Hunting Association Coyote Classic II
« Reply #104 on: January 02, 2013, 05:59:12 AM »
Yes randy will clear this up but I AM postive that not only called coyotes will count. That is what the discussion is about.

No one said it was o.k to have a loaded gun or shoot from the rig. If people are driving private roads and shooting coyotes so be it. AS long as they are not shooting from a rig or having a loaded gun in the rig. Road hunting is not illegal. Shooting from a rig is and having a loaded firearm in the rig is. You can get out of a rig and shoot a coyote after you see one driving around. There is no law that says you cant road hunt :chuckle:

Gee, we seem to be making a real issue of this.  All methods of harvesting the coyote have to conform with the rules set by the WDFW.  In the rules it references calling and legal means of harvesting.  If you have a disabled hunter permit and have the paper work to prove it, it is than legal to abide by those guidelines,if you want to spotlight, so be it, if you want to call, so be it, as long as it is any LEGAL means.

This has (thanks to all the attention and bending) made for a rule clarification for future Classics should there be any.  It takes things like this to point out the weak points of things so they can be fixed.  Thanks for that part.

We intended to have a coyote hunting contest, share the outdoors with other sportsmen and women, enjoy a sport we all share interest in and have a good time.  Please let us have that . . .

Sorry if we confused anybody . . .

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