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Re: To the hunter who peppered us.
« Reply #60 on: November 26, 2012, 03:28:21 PM »
:rolleyes: tunnel vision you just don't get it do you :chuckle:

Yep, that's it. You got me. Why don't you start a thread about changing the rules to do with duck hunting and pheasant hunting. This'll be a real hoot. Have fun, Singleshot.
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Re: To the hunter who peppered us.
« Reply #61 on: November 26, 2012, 03:29:32 PM »
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Re: To the hunter who peppered us.
« Reply #62 on: November 26, 2012, 03:29:58 PM »
i pheasant hunt alot and sometimes duck hunt,  i think changinf the rukes the way Silgleshot is saying is dumb,  looks like you just want th rules to benifit you.

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Re: To the hunter who peppered us.
« Reply #63 on: November 26, 2012, 03:37:54 PM »
i pheasant hunt alot and sometimes duck hunt,  i think changinf the rukes the way Silgleshot is saying is dumb,  looks like you just want th rules to benifit you.
Have you been drinking Pboys koolaid again :chuckle:
How is having separate public designated duck or pheasant sites,  or all users required to wear orange, or all users having an 8:00 to 4:00 entry rule in place only benefit pheasant hunters??  I would only see it by helping to keep one or both activities from  disappearing. If you can't see that then we as sportsmen are hopeless. I'm outta here :rolleyes: :chuckle:
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Re: To the hunter who peppered us.
« Reply #64 on: November 26, 2012, 03:42:14 PM »
Maybe on pheasant release sites where duck hunting occurs, they should let the duck hunters have the mornings, and the pheasant hunters the afternoons?

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To the hunter who peppered us.
« Reply #65 on: November 26, 2012, 04:15:25 PM »
God knows I'm an Argumentative SOB, but WOW this is fun to watch!!!  Haha

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Re: To the hunter who peppered us.
« Reply #66 on: November 26, 2012, 04:20:22 PM »
An entirely new perspective supporting why these release sights just sound so ridiculous.  Have not experienced one however I cannot say I have ever heard any one say anything good about them either.  Learning something new everyday.
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Re: To the hunter who peppered us.
« Reply #67 on: November 26, 2012, 04:24:45 PM »
Singleshot, your point is that you think everyone should go by pheasant hunter rules. I don't agree with that. I think everyone should go by the existing rules and hunt what they want in a legal and ethical way, regardless of whether they're pheasant, duck, or goose hunting, unless the area is open only for specific species hunting. I don't need to wear orange for goose or duck to be safe from you hunting pheasant. If you don't like that, you can pout or you can find private property to hunt. I, on the other hand, have no problem being considerate toward other hunters who are doing what they do legally and ethically. The argument is yours alone. I have the rules and sportsmanship to back me up.

Wrong again,The rules need to be changed for all users of public land to help prevent accidents and conflicts

So I take it you are a public land duck hunter that doesn't pheasant hunt right?

Nope, don't hunt ducks. And the rules need to be changed for you? There are no safety issues. There's not a single verifiable safety incident where a duck hunter was hurt by a pheasant hunter. You want to change the rule to benefit you, that's all. As far as conflict is concerned, be a sportsman. Quit being an antagonist because someone isn't doing what you want them to do. It's public land. That means you have to share. Deal with it.

P-boy! I have a right to my opinion, and  it is my opinion that you sir are a moron. thats the weakest argument that has come through the door yet!

the rules need to change to benefit both parties.

do I think what few pheasant release sites there are available should cater to the pheasant hunters more so than the duck hunters? damn skippy they should. go find a different place to hunt ducks for THE MONTH and FIFTEEN days that pheasant season overlaps ducks.

there are other places to hunt duck besides the release sites.  :beatdeadhorse: there are many places to hunt ducks over here, few places to hunt pheasants. do the math.

just because you have the "right" to do something doesn't mean its the wisest thing to do in a given situation.

at that particular release site a duck hunter does have every right to go out at 8:00 am with the rest of the pheasant hunters and not a minute before...
WHY a duck hunter would choose to set up his decoys in that time and place -when he could be hunting a much more productive water fowl only area-  is completely beyond me... although he does have the right to be out there.
that is why the rule was put in effect at that area.. no duck hunter with an ounce of common sense would set up at the same time as the pheasant hunters start... its just dumb.

just because you have the right to duck hunt on a pheasant release site doesn't mean you should. there are better places. you also have the right to slam your own testicles in a door. might not be the greatest idea however.
you have every right to walk down 72cnd street in tacoma after midnight, but thats not a great idea either.
there is a difference between exercising ones right and successfully executing common sense.

« Last Edit: November 26, 2012, 04:31:11 PM by Stilly bay »
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Re: To the hunter who peppered us.
« Reply #68 on: November 26, 2012, 04:32:31 PM »
Maybe on pheasant release sites where duck hunting occurs, they should let the duck hunters have the mornings, and the pheasant hunters the afternoons?

Now that sounds like a logical idea  :tup:

But then what would everyone argue about  :dunno:  :chuckle:

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Re: To the hunter who peppered us.
« Reply #69 on: November 26, 2012, 04:40:39 PM »
  Have not experienced one however I cannot say I have ever heard any one say anything good about them either. 

pheasant release sites are wonderful resources for those who enjoy upland hunting but do not have the ability to do so very often. wether its time or money or geography, release site give many people in western washington chances for birds that they might not have ever had.

its a place where older people can still get out and hunt and place where a young kid has a decent chance at his first kill. its a place where puppys can learn to be bird dogs, and old retired dogs can have another blaze of glory before passing on. and its place where hard working guys that never get much time off , can go and do what they love before getting back to their weekend chores, family, and work on monday.

there are strong opinions attached to these threads because pheasant hunters have strong feelings for their release sites.
many of my best memories happened on a release site.

« Last Edit: November 26, 2012, 04:47:30 PM by Stilly bay »
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Re: To the hunter who peppered us.
« Reply #70 on: November 26, 2012, 04:51:02 PM »
I find it interesting that the proposed solutions to this is to reduce access for the people that are obeying the rules.
The OP admitted to breaking the law by being out there before 8:00 AM and his claim of being shot is not substantiated by his posts (i.e. there was no damage, he was behind brush).  I don't believe he was shot intentionally nor maliciously.  Why is there so much interest in taking away from the intended user group???

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Re: To the hunter who peppered us.
« Reply #71 on: November 26, 2012, 04:56:05 PM »
Honest question here, as I don't know what goes into determining where pheasant are going to be released.  Why can't a "pheasant release site" be a somewhere that waterfowl don't frequent?  Seems to me many of the places that pheasant are released at sit right in the middle of good waterfowling land.

The suggestion was made that duck hunters go elsewhere during the pheasant season.  Why can't a pheasant release site be designated on some chunk of land without duck ponds, so that nobody has to go somewhere else?

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Re: To the hunter who peppered us.
« Reply #72 on: November 26, 2012, 05:10:07 PM »
I think it's die to farmers being willing to lease part of their land to wdfw and the land they are willing to lease out is land that they do not farm, thus the water logged ebey island

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Re: To the hunter who peppered us.
« Reply #73 on: November 26, 2012, 05:19:39 PM »
Cedarpants- this is a west side problem.  We have limited space and LOTS of people.  There are very few suitable sites for the release program.  Ducks are all over the wet side of the state. 
I've duck hunted release sites and I've bought the pheasant card for years.  There are a lot of good places to duck hunt around here, that is not true for upland birds on the wet side.
Release sites can be good for duck hunting after Thanksgiving.

The OP was in the wrong for being in the field before hours and in my opinion he is in the wrong for blowing this up online into some sort of malicious shooting.  He should not have been in front of the guys waiting for the clock to hit 8:00.  He was hidden in the field illegally, wearing camo, behind brush and he had shot dropped on him.

This should not be a pissing match.  On the east side there is more land and less people.  I've often duck hunted (or upland) while other user groups are in the area.  The conflict is from the crowding and not following the rules.

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To the hunter who peppered us.
« Reply #74 on: November 26, 2012, 05:20:43 PM »
Honest question here, as I don't know what goes into determining where pheasant are going to be released.  Why can't a "pheasant release site" be a somewhere that waterfowl don't frequent?  Seems to me many of the places that pheasant are released at sit right in the middle of good waterfowling land.

The suggestion was made that duck hunters go elsewhere during the pheasant season.  Why can't a pheasant release site be designated on some chunk of land without duck ponds, so that nobody has to go somewhere else?
Well here on the West side there is just very little public land left, zero native pheasants and more hunters than you can shake a stick at!  The D of F&W does a pretty good job working with what they've got.  I used to volunteer at the Cherry Vally pheasant sites a few years back? And the Land in the Vally is owned purely do in part that it floods every year and in doing so there is lots of ponds of water in and around the public sites enabling Duck and Pheasant hunters alike.  And on any givin morning 8:00AM 50 hunters are lined up at the boundary where we released 10 birds the night before. It's awesome, everybody charges out across the fields with dogs all confused and hunters peppering hunters and dogs and every now and then the fields flood and the duck hunters try they're luck, some get peppered as well!  It's real fun over here (-;


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