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Re: Commission invites public comments ... livestock compensation
« Reply #45 on: November 08, 2012, 12:47:44 PM »
I will talk to my sister this weekend and ask if the cattleman association talked about this new "plan" for wolf compensation. She is currently attending their conference in Cle Elum this week.

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Re: Commission invites public comments ... livestock compensation
« Reply #46 on: November 12, 2012, 11:15:18 AM »
:yike:  I'm sure there are going to be a few geuinni pigs that will sign up, but if EVERYONE signed up there would be NO $$$ for compensation...Signing an agreement with the State is like doing a deal with the Mob. Once your in its IMPOSSIBLE to get out!

Kass Kayser's dad signed a cooperative agreement, I believe. I think most of the acreage they run cattle on is in Kittitas County. It would be great to hear someone's perspective that actually signed an agreement.

I can imagine that signing a cooperative agreement could be extremely unpopular with some of your peers. I've been curious to know how the internal politics of the cattleman's association works. There is no doubt that there are a lot of colorful personalities involved, but is the group more heavily influenced by large, powerful producers, or is the voice of the organization equally reflective of all its members?



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Re: Commission invites public comments ... livestock compensation
« Reply #47 on: November 12, 2012, 07:16:04 PM »
I think we ought to create another thousand multi-season tags to pay for wolf expenses.
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Re: Commission invites public comments ... livestock compensation
« Reply #48 on: November 30, 2012, 09:22:50 AM »
:yike:  I'm sure there are going to be a few guinea pigs that will sign up, but if EVERYONE signed up there would be NO $$$ for compensation...Signing an agreement with the State is like doing a deal with the Mob. Once your in its IMPOSSIBLE to get out!

And what will the $$$ amount be? 3, 4, 5 hundred a head? How can they put a dollar amount on the value of lost livestock? Are they going to take into account lost production over the years that animal could have generated? No, they will just put a figure out there that some idiot in Olympia comes up with that seems fair. I say this is a BS feel good attempt to try and stroke the ranchers and farmers, but it will not work. It will run out of funds in the first year, just like they did in Oregon. Let the ranchers take care of the problem them selves and protect their own property. Just my  :twocents: from a westsider that feels for you eastsiders.
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Re: Commission invites public comments ... livestock compensation
« Reply #49 on: November 30, 2012, 09:49:53 AM »
the only way to quit dealing with the west side mentality (wolf lovers) is to secede the east side of washington from the west. this IS possible!! maybe more people should do like me and talk with our congressman about this. it has been approached several times but with little backing from the people. (mainly because they tried to keep it quite)

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Re: Commission invites public comments ... livestock compensation
« Reply #50 on: November 30, 2012, 09:56:14 AM »
the only way to quit dealing with the west side mentality (wolf lovers) is to secede the east side of washington from the west. this IS possible!! maybe more people should do like me and talk with our congressman about this. it has been approached several times but with little backing from the people. (mainly because they tried to keep it quite)

Yep, been said before. I hope you like poverty because without the revenues of the west side, you'll be patching roads with hay. I understand the frustration, though.
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Re: Commission invites public comments ... livestock compensation
« Reply #51 on: November 30, 2012, 10:09:53 AM »
sure would beat seeing all the general fund to to fix bridges and roads that dont need it on the west side of which i never drive on.

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Re: Commission invites public comments ... livestock compensation
« Reply #52 on: November 30, 2012, 10:31:31 AM »
the only way to quit dealing with the west side mentality (wolf lovers) is to secede the east side of washington from the west. this IS possible!! maybe more people should do like me and talk with our congressman about this. it has been approached several times but with little backing from the people. (mainly because they tried to keep it quite)

Yep, been said before. I hope you like poverty because without the revenues of the west side, you'll be patching roads with hay. I understand the frustration, though.



I don't think this is a true statement. Without the massive spending habits of the liberal westside, the eastside would not waste as much money and likely not need the tax base you think it does. I would gladly separate from the westside at any time.  :twocents:

The waste of money on wolves is a prime example. Most eastsiders don't want them and we would not be wasting the millions the westside is wasting on wolves.
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Re: Commission invites public comments ... livestock compensation
« Reply #53 on: November 30, 2012, 10:38:55 AM »
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Re: Commission invites public comments ... livestock compensation
« Reply #54 on: November 30, 2012, 10:40:35 AM »
the only way to quit dealing with the west side mentality (wolf lovers) is to secede the east side of washington from the west. this IS possible!! maybe more people should do like me and talk with our congressman about this. it has been approached several times but with little backing from the people. (mainly because they tried to keep it quite)

Yep, been said before. I hope you like poverty because without the revenues of the west side, you'll be patching roads with hay. I understand the frustration, though.



I don't think this is a true statement. Without the massive spending habits of the liberal westside, the eastside would not waste as much money and likely not need the tax base you think it does. I would gladly separate from the westside at any time.  :twocents:

The waste of money on wolves is a prime example. Most eastsiders don't want them and we would not be wasting the millions the westside is wasting on wolves.

North Idaho feels just as disenfranchised as we do.  A new State comprised of Eastern Washington and Northern Idaho is something I would vote for.  Leave the squishies to stew in their own juice.  :tup:
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Re: Commission invites public comments ... livestock compensation
« Reply #55 on: November 30, 2012, 10:51:32 AM »
you could add eastern oregon into that also!!! i think if there were alot more of us lookin into this and sending letters or email they might attempt to listen alittle more.

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Re: Commission invites public comments ... livestock compensation
« Reply #56 on: November 30, 2012, 10:53:06 AM »
Bye!   :hello:

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Re: Commission invites public comments ... livestock compensation
« Reply #57 on: November 30, 2012, 10:54:11 AM »
You could have E.OR, E.WA, and N.ID all get together as one state. Call it Orwaid.
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Re: Commission invites public comments ... livestock compensation
« Reply #58 on: November 30, 2012, 11:01:17 AM »
or just call it the Good State. its moto could be "Where working people have fun in the outdoors!"

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Re: Commission invites public comments ... livestock compensation
« Reply #59 on: November 30, 2012, 12:30:35 PM »
If eastern WA, eastern OR, and norther ID were to form a new state I would move over there in a hot minute! I'll bet we could have a conservative government for a change!  :IBCOOL:
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