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Re: Buying a diesel truck
« Reply #90 on: December 03, 2012, 10:57:16 PM »
I wish that 06 dodge was in my price range. I could swing it but trying to be responsible and have money to buy parts  8)

 Dealer in Burlington has an 03 with 60k manual trans they are asking $27k. He said that's what they are worth supply and demand.
The dealer is pretty close to correct given the manual trans and mileage.
Depending on how the truck is equipped, that truck new was probably only 2-5k more then it's current asking price.
I paid $33k for my '05 dually SLT 4x4 new from Karmart.  I picked the right day.  They were having a slow sales week. :chuckle:

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Re: Buying a diesel truck
« Reply #91 on: December 03, 2012, 10:58:08 PM »
Thanks Jim. I have been very patient thus far. Problem with the newer trucks is the emissions crap. Wasn't 2008 first year of the 6.4after the awful 6.0? Sucks that so many guys had to figure them out for ford. My buddy worked the kinks out of his 6.0 ford and that truck flat out gets it done. But it cost him.

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Re: Buying a diesel truck
« Reply #92 on: December 03, 2012, 11:02:46 PM »
I wish that 06 dodge was in my price range. I could swing it but trying to be responsible and have money to buy parts  8)

 Dealer in Burlington has an 03 with 60k manual trans they are asking $27k. He said that's what they are worth supply and demand.
The dealer is pretty close to correct given the manual trans and mileage.
Depending on how the truck is equipped, that truck new was probably only 2-5k more then it's current asking price.
I paid $33k for my '05 dually SLT 4x4 new from Karmart.  I picked the right day.  They were having a slow sales week. :chuckle:

Here is the truck

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=98290&endYear=2010&fuelCodes=DSL&driveCodes=4WD%7CAWD&transmissionCode=MAN&sellerTypes=b&transmissionCodes=MAN&maxPrice=30000&mmt=%5BDODGE%5BRAM3502WD%5B%5DRAM25002WD%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&modelCode1=RAM3502WD&sortBy=distanceASC&driveCode=4WD%7CAWD&makeCode2=DODGE&modelCode2=RAM25002WD&showcaseOwnerId=100015786&startYear=2003&makeCode1=DODGE&searchRadius=300&minPrice=15000&listingId=334901783&listingIndex=10&Log=0

Pretty basic but the miles I like.

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Re: Buying a diesel truck
« Reply #93 on: December 03, 2012, 11:15:29 PM »
Thanks Jim. I have been very patient thus far. Problem with the newer trucks is the emissions crap. Wasn't 2008 first year of the 6.4after the awful 6.0? Sucks that so many guys had to figure them out for ford. My buddy worked the kinks out of his 6.0 ford and that truck flat out gets it done. But it cost him.

Yes it is but the power is killer!!! The 6.0 guys were havin problems with head gaskets & studs , intercooler leaks, EGR's because of the tuners & runnin way too much HP than they were designed for from what my mechanic buds told me.

I was looking at the Dodges but the back seats had no room, the Fords hands down have way more room for the 2 labs & huntin stuff.

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Re: Buying a diesel truck
« Reply #94 on: December 03, 2012, 11:18:26 PM »
Rallye will usually deal a bit.  You could probably get them into the low to mid 25's for that truck.

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Re: Buying a diesel truck
« Reply #95 on: December 04, 2012, 07:59:38 AM »
Dodge, up to 07.5 have the 5.9 great mileage compared to the v-8's and twice the life span. Will pull anything. All full size pickups have their down falls but it's hard to beat the cummins. The ride of a Chevy is great but you lose integrity when pulling due to the "soft" suspension.

Interesting...

I never saw an honest 20mpg tank in my '07 Ram with the 5.9 CTD. My '11 Duramax with the DPF and emissions has seen several 20+ MPG (hand calculated) tanks.

Towing the same 11,000lb fifth wheel,the supposedly soft suspension on my '11 2500HD handles the fifth wheel better than the '07 Ram did.

My 26' aluminum pilothouse boat weighs over 10,000. No issues with my 2500HD pulling a bumper pull either.

Hmmmm, never heard of anyone getting 20 plus in a pickup with a DPF, but ok.

I drive a 2002 5.9 and get 20 consistently when I'm empty. You do know what a DPF does don't you?
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Re: Buying a diesel truck
« Reply #96 on: December 04, 2012, 10:41:36 AM »
Dodge, up to 07.5 have the 5.9 great mileage compared to the v-8's and twice the life span. Will pull anything. All full size pickups have their down falls but it's hard to beat the cummins. The ride of a Chevy is great but you lose integrity when pulling due to the "soft" suspension.

Interesting...

I never saw an honest 20mpg tank in my '07 Ram with the 5.9 CTD. My '11 Duramax with the DPF and emissions has seen several 20+ MPG (hand calculated) tanks.

Towing the same 11,000lb fifth wheel,the supposedly soft suspension on my '11 2500HD handles the fifth wheel better than the '07 Ram did.

My 26' aluminum pilothouse boat weighs over 10,000. No issues with my 2500HD pulling a bumper pull either.

Hmmmm, never heard of anyone getting 20 plus in a pickup with a DPF, but ok.

I drive a 2002 5.9 and get 20 consistently when I'm empty. You do know what a DPF does don't you?

There are a lot of guys running the Ford 6.7 and the LML Duramax that are seeing 20+ mpg now that both trucks are using urea. I'm sure once Dodge starts using urea they'll see an increase as well.

Urea has increased fuel mileage by 20+%

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Re: Buying a diesel truck
« Reply #97 on: December 04, 2012, 01:31:43 PM »
Dodge, up to 07.5 have the 5.9 great mileage compared to the v-8's and twice the life span. Will pull anything. All full size pickups have their down falls but it's hard to beat the cummins. The ride of a Chevy is great but you lose integrity when pulling due to the "soft" suspension.

Interesting...

I never saw an honest 20mpg tank in my '07 Ram with the 5.9 CTD. My '11 Duramax with the DPF and emissions has seen several 20+ MPG (hand calculated) tanks.

Towing the same 11,000lb fifth wheel,the supposedly soft suspension on my '11 2500HD handles the fifth wheel better than the '07 Ram did.

My 26' aluminum pilothouse boat weighs over 10,000. No issues with my 2500HD pulling a bumper pull either.

Hmmmm, never heard of anyone getting 20 plus in a pickup with a DPF, but ok.

I drive a 2002 5.9 and get 20 consistently when I'm empty. You do know what a DPF does don't you?

There are a lot of guys running the Ford 6.7 and the LML Duramax that are seeing 20+ mpg now that both trucks are using urea. I'm sure once Dodge starts using urea they'll see an increase as well.

Urea has increased fuel mileage by 20+%

I find that the 20% really, really, really hard to believe.

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Buying a diesel truck
« Reply #98 on: December 04, 2012, 01:39:08 PM »
I've seen 5% projected improvement with DEF but not 20%. With that said, I have -0- experience with it as this is Dodges 1st year with it.
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Re: Buying a diesel truck
« Reply #99 on: December 04, 2012, 01:48:01 PM »


I find that the 20% really, really, really hard to believe.

You're correct. I got to typing too fast. Its 10+%

IIRC GM says 11%. Ford is similar.


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Re: Buying a diesel truck
« Reply #100 on: December 04, 2012, 01:54:33 PM »
Im curious what these new deisels will get if you still cut off all the emission crap?  Its great they are improving but all this is jusy more stuff to maintain and fix.  It seems these new trucks are in the shop with codes all the time no matter the make.  KISS keep it simple stupid is what I believe. :twocents:
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Re: Buying a diesel truck
« Reply #101 on: December 04, 2012, 03:06:46 PM »
I just sold my 2001 F-350 that was a great pickup, damn thing was bullet proof.  I just bought a 2012 F-350 to replace it and on the way home from Portland to Enumclaw and then around town driving I got 18.7mpg on my first tank, this was hand calculated mileage.  I am hoping that it will get even better once she gets broke in a bit more. 

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Buying a diesel truck
« Reply #102 on: December 04, 2012, 03:45:46 PM »
Im curious what these new deisels will get if you still cut off all the emission crap?  Its great they are improving but all this is jusy more stuff to maintain and fix.  It seems these new trucks are in the shop with codes all the time no matter the make.  KISS keep it simple stupid is what I believe. :twocents:
There was a bunch of problems with DPF equipped Dodge trucks at first(07-08) but those were resolved finally with a fix a couple years ago. DEF should apparently need to he topped off at oil change intervals. Other than that no other maintenance.
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Re: Buying a diesel truck
« Reply #103 on: December 04, 2012, 03:53:29 PM »
I have an 03 dodge and a 05 with the 6 speed stick and deisel. They pull hard... IMO the best combination for owning a dodge. One point i would make about the 03  is SOME of the 03 have a frame mounted fuel pump.  :tdown: Could have lost my injector pump when mine went out. Most after that vintage have an in the tank pump system. Why is this important? In the tank pumps self lubricate lasting longer. When lifter pumps go out often your injection pump works itself to death trying to lift the fuel and squirt it.  Lifter pumps are cheep Injector pumps... not so much...
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Re: Buying a diesel truck
« Reply #104 on: December 04, 2012, 03:55:00 PM »
I have an 03 dodge and a 05 with the 6 speed stick and deisel. They pull hard... IMO the best combination for owning a dodge. One point i would make about the 03  is SOME of the 03 have a frame mounted fuel pump.  :tdown: Could have lost my injector pump when mine went out. Most after that vintage have an in the tank pump system. Why is this important? In the tank pumps self lubricate lasting longer. When lifter pumps go out often your injection pump works itself to death trying to lift the fuel and squirt it.  Lifter pumps are cheep Injector pumps... not so much...

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