Dad got his sheep today about 9:00 am, shot him at 210 yards, one shot kill, spent the whole rest of the day fighting the heat so we didnt get a lot of pictures but i will try and post some but im having troubles so if somebody wants i can email some to you if you wanna post them. big ram, the biologist said that it is unusually large for an umptanum sheep, and from the measurements he took i think it will easily go 160, possibly 165 or better well see he only measured horn length and bases so ill measure the whole thing tomorrow