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Re: VP Biden says President will bypass congress and issue executive order
« Reply #30 on: January 09, 2013, 04:27:54 PM »
I thought executive order could not be used to modify or change the constitution.
That is correct.
Do you believe that matters to him?

It will when it goes to the Supreme court.
some people have not been paying attention. ;)

Please enlighten all of us with your wisdom.
I've been paying attention BS, perhaps you should do a little as well. ;)
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Re: VP Biden says President will bypass congress and issue executive order
« Reply #31 on: January 09, 2013, 05:03:18 PM »
I thought executive order could not be used to modify or change the constitution.
That is correct.
Do you believe that matters to him?

It will when it goes to the Supreme court.
some people have not been paying attention. ;)

Please enlighten all of us with your wisdom.
I've been paying attention BS, perhaps you should do a little as well. ;)

I have too.  And the only way to fight an executive order is through the supreme court.  Unless you have a super majority in congress.
So please tell me what I am missing.
Welcome to liberal America, where the truth is condemned and facts are ignored so as not to "offend" anyone


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Re: VP Biden says President will bypass congress and issue executive order
« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2013, 05:14:55 PM »
I thought executive order could not be used to modify or change the constitution.
That is correct.
Do you believe that matters to him?

It will when it goes to the Supreme court.
some people have not been paying attention. ;)

Please enlighten all of us with your wisdom.
I've been paying attention BS, perhaps you should do a little as well. ;)

I have too.  And the only way to fight an executive order is through the supreme court.  Unless you have a super majority in congress.
So please tell me what I am missing.
Congress has a much bigger fish to fry right now, they will not take time to fight Obama on any gun issue right now until this budget/fiscal cliff issue is dealt with, which is not going to get done anytime soon.
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Re: VP Biden says President will bypass congress and issue executive order
« Reply #33 on: January 09, 2013, 05:17:00 PM »
I thought executive order could not be used to modify or change the constitution.
That is correct.
Do you believe that matters to him?

It will when it goes to the Supreme court.
some people have not been paying attention. ;)

Please enlighten all of us with your wisdom.
I've been paying attention BS, perhaps you should do a little as well. ;)

I have too.  And the only way to fight an executive order is through the supreme court.  Unless you have a super majority in congress.
So please tell me what I am missing.
Congress has a much bigger fish to fry right now, they will not take time to fight Obama on any gun issue right now until this budget/fiscal cliff issue is dealt with, which is not going to get done anytime soon.

Are you kidding me?  :DOH:  You don't have to go through congress to get an executive order done.
Welcome to liberal America, where the truth is condemned and facts are ignored so as not to "offend" anyone


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Re: VP Biden says President will bypass congress and issue executive order
« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2013, 05:23:02 PM »
I thought executive order could not be used to modify or change the constitution.
That is correct.
Do you believe that matters to him?

It will when it goes to the Supreme court.
some people have not been paying attention. ;)

Please enlighten all of us with your wisdom.
I've been paying attention BS, perhaps you should do a little as well. ;)

I have too.  And the only way to fight an executive order is through the supreme court.  Unless you have a super majority in congress.
So please tell me what I am missing.
Congress has a much bigger fish to fry right now, they will not take time to fight Obama on any gun issue right now until this budget/fiscal cliff issue is dealt with, which is not going to get done anytime soon.

Are you kidding me?  :DOH:  You don't have to go through congress to get an executive order done.
He bypassed congress on his immigration reform.
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Re: VP Biden says President will bypass congress and issue executive order
« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2013, 05:31:42 PM »
The 1 thing he can do with an executive order is get rid of the loop holes (gun shows, Internet sales not through an FFL)

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Re: VP Biden says President will bypass congress and issue executive order
« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2013, 05:48:19 PM »
I thought executive order could not be used to modify or change the constitution.
That is correct.
Do you believe that matters to him?

It will when it goes to the Supreme court.
some people have not been paying attention. ;)

Please enlighten all of us with your wisdom.
I've been paying attention BS, perhaps you should do a little as well. ;)

I have too.  And the only way to fight an executive order is through the supreme court.  Unless you have a super majority in congress.
So please tell me what I am missing.
Congress has a much bigger fish to fry right now, they will not take time to fight Obama on any gun issue right now until this budget/fiscal cliff issue is dealt with, which is not going to get done anytime soon.

Are you kidding me?  :DOH:  You don't have to go through congress to get an executive order done.
No congress doesn't have to approve it.....Thats why its called an "executive order"
Where the hell were you guys in '94????
Clinton pulled the executive order *censored* b/c he couldn't get congress to pass the crime bill which was the "assault weapons ban" from 1994-2004

 HE CAN DO IT IF HE WANTS!

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Re: VP Biden says President will bypass congress and issue executive order
« Reply #38 on: January 09, 2013, 06:16:56 PM »
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Re: VP Biden says President will bypass congress and issue executive order
« Reply #39 on: January 09, 2013, 06:39:00 PM »
Sorry phool, That wasn't aimed at you, ;)

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Re: VP Biden says President will bypass congress and issue executive order
« Reply #40 on: January 09, 2013, 06:41:41 PM »
"Biden said that the administration is weighing executive action in addition to recommending legislation by Congress. Recommendations to the Biden group include making gun-trafficking a felony, getting the Justice Department to prosecute people caught lying on gun background-check forms and ordering federal agencies to send data to the National Gun Background Check Database.

Some of those pieces could happen by executive action, but congressional say-so would be needed for more far-reaching changes such as reinstating the ban on assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines. Congress let the ban expire in 2004 under heavy pressure from the NRA. Democrats blamed a backlash against some lawmakers who voted for its enactment 10 years earlier for steep election losses that year."

My first question would be why isn't gun trafficking a felony already? Along with the other thing mentioned.


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Re: VP Biden says President will bypass congress and issue executive order
« Reply #41 on: January 09, 2013, 06:45:15 PM »


My first question would be why isn't gun trafficking a felony already? Along with the other thing mentioned.



Because then they would have to charge Holder and Obama with a felony and they can't have that
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Re: VP Biden says President will bypass congress and issue executive order
« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2013, 06:59:51 PM »
I thought executive order could not be used to modify or change the constitution.
That is correct.
Do you believe that matters to him?

It will when it goes to the Supreme court.
some people have not been paying attention. ;)

Please enlighten all of us with your wisdom.
I've been paying attention BS, perhaps you should do a little as well. ;)

I have too.  And the only way to fight an executive order is through the supreme court.  Unless you have a super majority in congress.
So please tell me what I am missing.
Congress has a much bigger fish to fry right now, they will not take time to fight Obama on any gun issue right now until this budget/fiscal cliff issue is dealt with, which is not going to get done anytime soon.

Are you kidding me?  :DOH:  You don't have to go through congress to get an executive order done.
He bypassed congress on his immigration reform.

Cricket Chirps. 

All of thosed that voted for this idiot got dooped and are having a hard time eating crow. This is NOT the way the USA should be run.  He is pissing off a big demographic of people.  This could be his demise.  IMPEACH!

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Re: VP Biden says President will bypass congress and issue executive order
« Reply #43 on: January 09, 2013, 07:05:18 PM »
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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: Arms trafficking, also known as gunrunning, is the illegal trafficking or smuggling of contraband weapons or ammunition. What constitutes legal trade in firearms varies widely, depending on local and national laws.

 What is "gun trafficking" ?  Who gets to define it? Of course once tagged with felony charges you no longer are able to posess a firearm then each posession carries another felony charge.......by creating more felons you effectively dissarm the public.....baby steps.
 
  So by trading guns with my Oregon res brother across state lines without an FFL am I gun traffcking? Probably, so that would make me a felon and no longer leagaly able to posses a firearm. Hypotheticaly of course.
  Can't remember which founding father said it, might have been Jefferson :dunno: "You cannot controll an honest man untill you enact enough laws to make everone a criminal"
  Each new felony offence created creates one more felon who cannot vote or posess a firearm, violent or not.
 

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Re: VP Biden says President will bypass congress and issue executive order
« Reply #44 on: January 09, 2013, 07:08:06 PM »
Dopey will make things that you possess illegal, felony conviction if you are caught with them.

Dopey will shut down all things internet if folks talk of revolt.

Now how are you all going to muster to stand up to this?
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