More Hounds down due to Wolves in MT.

[turkeyfeather]

it could hold a more then a few small groups. i have seen a wolf out there and many loggers have to. i called the game department and they said there had been more then  one report of a wolfs sightings in the area i was in.  i think they are all over western Wa. i think people just dont see them in the woods.

I may be wrong but I haven't seen anything about a confirmed pack anywhere near you. A couple of strays here and there is alot different than having multiple confirmed packs in the areas you hunt. You'd be suprised what that does to your hunting.

[grundy53]

 

it could hold a more then a few small groups. i have seen a wolf out there and many loggers have to. i called the game department and they said there had been more then  one report of a wolfs sightings in the area i was in.  i think they are all over western Wa. i think people just dont see them in the woods.

I may be wrong but I haven't seen anything about a confirmed pack anywhere near you. A couple of strays here and there is alot different than having multiple confirmed packs in the areas you hunt. You'd be suprised what that does to your hunting.

[Fishaholic]

im just saying i know that there is enough area to hold a large number of wolfs im not saying there is or is not. the hunting areas i live next to suck. they get damaged by illegal brush pickers and poachers.

[Sitka_Blacktail]

im just saying i know that there is enough area to hold a large number of wolfs im not saying there is or is not. the hunting areas i live next to suck. they get damaged by illegal brush pickers and poachers.

Boy you've got that right.

[splitshot]

we need more hounds and less wolves.  i am going to the wolf meeting in spokane on wednesday eve.  mike w

[Fishaholic]

we need more hounds and less wolves.  i am going to the wolf meeting in spokane on wednesday eve.  mike w

  tell them ill kill wofls for free  all day.      and sitda its getting worse and worse every year around hear for all game. when i was little i remember my cousins killing 2 bear a bear in the promise land now your lucky to shoot a grouse. the brush pickers are raping the wildlife and no one is doing anything about it.

[splitshot]

i am from the dry side , but could someone kindly explain what a brush picker is.  i am familiar with poacher and hope i see one and turn him in for points.  thanks,  mike w

[JimmyHoffa]

i am from the dry side , but could someone kindly explain what a brush picker is.  i am familiar with poacher and hope i see one and turn him in for points.  thanks,  mike w

Brushpickers scour the forest for particular plants such as salal, beargrass, oregon grape, cedar boughs, pine boughs, etc.  It used to be done by local families---a logger would take the family out on the weekend and they would gather some plants and sell to floral buyers.  Now the floral industry in WA is estimated to be close to a $1 billion/year industry (only $500 million being legit).  So there are brush wranglers that in order to meet the demands of the East Coast and Europe (mostly Netherlands) have been importing labor from south of the border (Mexico, El Salvador, Guatemala mainly).  They rip off the mostly illegal workers and the pickers resort to killing lots of wildlife in the forest--snares and clubs for deer.  Westside towns have large illegal populations now, and it isn't uncommon to see a van or two while out on DNR/FS land.  Should explain some of it.

[Fishaholic]

yeah that pretty much sums it up. they pick brush and peel bark when its in season. its sad they get so mnny logging roads closed up because they dump garbage. i have caught them doing it turned them in and took pictures of them throwing stuff out and i dont think anything happened.

[turkeyfeather]

we need more hounds and less wolves.  i am going to the wolf meeting in spokane on wednesday eve.  mike w

I'll be there tonight as well Mike.

i am from the dry side , but could someone kindly explain what a brush picker is.  i am familiar with poacher and hope i see one and turn him in for points.  thanks,  mike w

Brushpickers scour the forest for particular plants such as salal, beargrass, oregon grape, cedar boughs, pine boughs, etc.  It used to be done by local families---a logger would take the family out on the weekend and they would gather some plants and sell to floral buyers.  Now the floral industry in WA is estimated to be close to a $1 billion/year industry (only $500 million being legit).  So there are brush wranglers that in order to meet the demands of the East Coast and Europe (mostly Netherlands) have been importing labor from south of the border (Mexico, El Salvador, Guatemala mainly).  They rip off the mostly illegal workers and the pickers resort to killing lots of wildlife in the forest--snares and clubs for deer.  Westside towns have large illegal populations now, and it isn't uncommon to see a van or two while out on DNR/FS land.  Should explain some of it.

I had no idea anything like this went on. Then again when I lived in Aberdeen I wasn't a hunter.

[Fishaholic]

happens everyday i see them every time i go out in the woods most are illegal  the border patroll should go hit the dirt roads once a week they would do good. hahaha

[JimmyHoffa]

happens everyday i see them every time i go out in the woods most are illegal  the border patroll should go hit the dirt roads once a week they would do good. hahaha

Border Patrol on the peninsula basically has its hands tied for this because of all the protests and lawsuits from human rights groups from Seattle.  They got in trouble for racial profiling.  Forest Service isn't allowed to use BP for translating assistance any more....they have to call some other certified translator.

[Sitka_Blacktail]

happens everyday i see them every time i go out in the woods most are illegal  the border patroll should go hit the dirt roads once a week they would do good. hahaha

I live in Hoquiam and see the same things, tho never caught anybody dumping trash. But I've seen plenty of vans full of people of questionable nationality out picking brush. You know they either are illegally picking brush or are not legal citizens when you come around the corner and they're all scrambling into the brush. Figured out their "pick me up" code down in Williams Creek. They call the driver on a cell, then drop a green branch in the road so the driver knows where to stop. Then they hide back in the brush and don't come out until the driver stops.  The driver takes off after dumping them off then returns later for the pick up. That way to the casual eye, there's no one in the area. There's been some cases where they've been caught with poached animals under their brush. Some with multiple animals.

[Fishaholic]

yeah i always screw with them you can honk if you see a van near by and 40 of them will come piling out of the brush and when they see your not there ride they run back in its funny stuff. mean but funny.

[gaddy]

get some video, would be fun to watch