Ever see one of these?

[Bluemoon]

Just wondering 

[ghosthunter]

Dumbest animal on the planet.  We use to chase them in Alaska . They would climb a small tree to eye level and look t us. We would rub a stick on the to get quills.

[full choke]

Ever see one of these?
Yep. Looks like the south end of a northbound one of these...

[Austrian Hunter]

Haha, hate to be a dumb dog... Feel sorry for them!!!

[Kola16]

Seen one at the beginning of the year

[h2ofowlr]

Yep.  I usually leave them lay where I find them.

[Heredoggydoggy]

How do porcupines make love?  VERY CAREFULLY!   

[wsucowboy]

How do porcupines make love?  VERY CAREFULLY!   

[PolarBear]

Last year I spent an hour pulling quills out of my steer's nose and face.  I hate those damn things!

[marlin]

Last time I saw one of those I dumped a 17rd mag of 9mm into it 

[Smossy]

We have one in Roy, that's Across the street from my girls property. It literally STRIPS all the bark from most the trees in the direct area. Interested site. @ First I really didn't know what to think of it. My lack of experience in the field led me to believe they were deer rubs. But there was some spots that were over 10 feet and I was like there's no way.

Are they scarce in washington or something? I want to get photos of this lil critter. Need to get a trail cam setup for him.

[Smossy]

Yep.  I usually leave them lay where I find them.

Any specific reason why? Just curious? Considered a nuisance?
I really dont know anything about them besides they like to eat bark off trees. Hah

[Smossy]

How do porcupines make love?  VERY CAREFULLY!   

Hey your signature is awesome.
"A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that."

[bobcat]

I got lots of trail cam pictures of porcupines.

They do like apples!

[Smossy]

I got lots of trail cam pictures of porcupines.

They do like apples!

I don't even have a trail cam yet.
Spent like 2000$ in equipment, gear.

Still don't have binoculars or trail cams haha oh man.
Or knowledge of hunting. Just bits here and there.
I really am true to my title "Illiterate woodsman".
I don't even go hiking without my 50lb hiking bag full of tons of stuff I don't really need.
Better safe then sorry I always say. Ill eventually learn whats really important.
I got more first aid stuff in my bag then a hospital haha.
Defibrillator, Stitch kit, Anti-Venom lol.
JK I do got everything down to a stitch kit and 200 feet of rope.

[Smossy]

I got lots of trail cam pictures of porcupines.

They do like apples!

Dont forget the tree bark!

[bobcat]

I got lots of trail cam pictures of porcupines.

They do like apples!

Dont forget the tree bark!

Right, but I get pictures of them eating the apples I put out for deer.

[Smossy]

I got lots of trail cam pictures of porcupines.

They do like apples!

Dont forget the tree bark!

Right, but I get pictures of them eating the apples I put out for deer.

Ive thought of using a corn bait setup with some type of PVC style on a tree for my first few hunts, Just to get the experience of actually seeing them. Pretty sure Its called a gravity feed.
Any opinions on that?

[Chukar]

On gravity?
Generally it...and I am speaking scientifically lest the mods find offense...well it sucks.

[Smossy]

On gravity?
Generally it...and I am speaking scientifically lest the mods find offense...well it sucks.

What would be better to try then? What don't you like about it?
 I'm looking for a somewhat cost efficient way of baiting.

[Chukar]

Seriously? Ok.
On its own gravity seems to be doing a sufficient job of bringing items back to Earth in a timely manner.
Down side is when I drop something, and you may have the same issue, it rarely if ever hangs in the air it was placed into so haphazardly awaiting my eventual grab. Instead I have to bend down a pick it up which takes extra time and energy

Baiting. I don't know much about that.

It was a joke. Gravity=Sucks. Don't believe that was accepted as a joke.
So on topic...
Porcupines are found generally any rural area where trees are found. They are slow and rather methodical. Have a odd oily smell to denning areas. Seem to like arid rather than moist locales in my experience in the NW. Hell on bird dogs, Aussie sheps and livestock. Mostly shot and deserted. Soft flesh. Not a bad crock pot greasy critter.
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*On the basis and collection of my posts in this back and forth I displayed mostly sarcastic tones but did offer responsible factual info as... be known by those examining said post.

[Smossy]

lol Ill admit, you had me confused at first.
Definetly got a laugh out of me though 

[Smossy]

Seriously? Ok.
On its own gravity seems to be doing a sufficient job of bringing items back to Earth in a timely manner.
Down side is when I drop something, and you may have the same issue, it rarely if ever hangs in the air it was placed into so haphazardly awaiting my eventual grab. Instead I have to bend down a pick it up which takes extra time and energy

Baiting. I don't know much about that.

It was a joke. Gravity=Sucks. Don't believe that was accepted as a joke.
So on topic...
Porcupines are found generally any rural area where trees are found. They are slow and rather methodical. Have a odd oily smell to denning areas. Seem to like arid rather than moist locales in my experience in the NW. Hell on bird dogs, Aussie sheps and livestock. Mostly shot and deserted. Soft flesh. Not a bad crock pot greasy critter.
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*On the basis and collection of my posts in this back and forth I displayed mostly sarcastic tones but did offer responsible factual info as... be known by those examining said post.

Ive read multiple times that theyre SKIN is whats eatin on them not the actually meat.
The skin holds thousands upon thousands of little retracting muscles that help them to defend themselvs with the quils. Dont know if Id ever attempt that but hmm.



OHHHH, that musta been what I seen on our security camera outside the house in roy, I seen some small black ball, creeping SUPER slow across a field, I couldnt for my life make out what it was, led alone even think of what was that shape and moved around that slow.

Best advice now?
Kill it? We just recently lost a prized pure bread bangle cat that we still have yet to find.
I wonder if thats what may have got him?

We thought coyotes or an eagle but from my believe that cat could and would have no problem fighting off a few coyotes, Hes multiple times fought off and severely injured the 3 herding dogs that live next door. Tried to kill him multiple times with no success.

An eagle though? I think hed have no chance... Im beginning to think the same about one of those spiney little creatures.

[Wazukie]

They are pretty much kill on site in my neck of the woods cause they kill tree's.  No money in dead tree's ya know 

[Smossy]

They are pretty much kill on site in my neck of the woods cause they kill tree's.  No money in dead tree's ya know 

Yeah I just wasnt sure about how destructive they really are, Will def keep the bow ready incase I see him again. Cheers.

[pips4bucks]

They aren't the most graceful of creatures.  I watched one climbing up a cut bank off a logging road once.  He got to the overhanging tree roots and was having a heck of a time getting past them.  Not long a noisy diesel powered Ford pickup came bombing down the road and scared the crap out of that porky.  Well, he went tumbling, head over heels and rolled for about 20 feet.  When he finally stopped rolling he looked like the was drunk, swaying back and forth.  When he regained his senses he took off running and dove off the opposite side of the road... right smack into a tree. 

One of the funniest spectacles I've ever seen.

[sled]

  Seen Alot of them hunting the crab creek area in the Russian olive trees.

[KFhunter]

Best advice now?
Kill it? We just recently lost a prized pure bread bangle cat that we still have yet to find.
I wonder if thats what may have got him?

We thought coyotes or an eagle but from my believe that cat could and would have no problem fighting off a few coyotes, Hes multiple times fought off and severely injured the 3 herding dogs that live next door. Tried to kill him multiple times with no success.

An eagle though? I think hed have no chance... Im beginning to think the same about one of those spiney little creatures.

Porkys don't eat cats.
Your cat is not going to fight off multiple coyotes or a single adult coyote.
An eagle could pack off your cat, cats don't do well against raptors including owls.  If your cat is big then most raptors would ignore it.
Your neighbors dogs are wusses and overly pampered

If I had to guess, I'd give it a 50/50 shot coyotes or roadkill.

[HookedOnQuack]

  Seen Alot of them hunting the crab creek area in the Russian olive trees.

the one i have mounted came from crab creek

[bear hunter]

  Yup my dog had a quills in her nose last week so I drop the sucker that did it.  I am going to use the long winter hair for fly tying

[Huntbear]

I want one for the quills and the skull for a euro type mount...  have not seen one in years! 

[Smossy]

Best advice now?
Kill it? We just recently lost a prized pure bread bangle cat that we still have yet to find.
I wonder if thats what may have got him?

We thought coyotes or an eagle but from my believe that cat could and would have no problem fighting off a few coyotes, Hes multiple times fought off and severely injured the 3 herding dogs that live next door. Tried to kill him multiple times with no success.

An eagle though? I think hed have no chance... Im beginning to think the same about one of those spiney little creatures.

Porkys don't eat cats.
Your cat is not going to fight off multiple coyotes or a single adult coyote.
An eagle could pack off your cat, cats don't do well against raptors including owls.  If your cat is big then most raptors would ignore it.
Your neighbors dogs are wusses and overly pampered

If I had to guess, I'd give it a 50/50 shot coyotes or roadkill.

Pretty remote area, Not much vehicle traffic. Its not a normal cat, Its was a bangle.
Very very different. Bangle's still have 90% wild blood, They are BARELY dimesticated. Not like your average house cat which has about 10% wild blood.
Meaning its instincts are going to be completely different. Its a killer.

http://www.ariionkathleenbrindley.com/bengal-cat.jpg

Alittle larger then this one but grey with black spots.
If you know nothing of the breed you really don't understand how large they can be, Easily making a bobcat look like a dwarf.

I know porcupines dont eat cats lol where did that comment come from?
Porcupines kill dogs, It would have no problem dropping a cat.
And cats being as they are, Will go crawl in a hole to nurse theyre own wounds.
A dog will come home and seek out help from its owner.
I still have a hard time believing a coyote could even touch him being as his claws are like eagle talons and paws are the size of a womans hand.

But then again Im SMOSSY what do I know.

[boneaddict]

We thought coyotes or an eagle but from my believe that cat could and would have no problem fighting off a few coyotes, Hes multiple times fought off and severely injured the 3 herding dogs that live next door. Tried to kill him multiple times with no success.

An eagle though? I think hed have no chance... Im beginning to think the same about one of those spiney little creatures.

Its how I interpreted it to smossy

I know porcupines dont eat cats lol where did that comment come from?
Porcupines kill dogs, It would have no problem dropping a cat.

Cats are the singlemost numero uno predator of porcupines other than man of course.   They have mastered a way of killing them, which if your cat had as much wild instinct as you claim, would probably have no problem.      I doubt it fended off coyotes, other than climbing a tree and surviiving them.

[Smossy]

We thought coyotes or an eagle but from my believe that cat could and would have no problem fighting off a few coyotes, Hes multiple times fought off and severely injured the 3 herding dogs that live next door. Tried to kill him multiple times with no success.

An eagle though? I think hed have no chance... Im beginning to think the same about one of those spiney little creatures.

Its how I interpreted it to smossy

I know porcupines dont eat cats lol where did that comment come from?
Porcupines kill dogs, It would have no problem dropping a cat.

Cats are the singlemost numero uno predator of porcupines other than man of course.   They have mastered a way of killing them, which if your cat had as much wild instinct as you claim, would probably have no problem.      I doubt it fended off coyotes, other than climbing a tree and surviiving them.

Thats why Im asking you guys. Thats like saying an old lady aint tough. Well what kind of old lady, is she packing? Is she healthy. Thats why I had to share what kind of animal he was. Not just an average house cat.
Not arguing just making sure everyone gets HIM. If you think it was still a coyote or whatever Im not going to believe otherwise. He was a beautiful creature regardless and he will forever be missed. I just want to know what I need to kill in the local area to make us all feel better, Unless it was a theif or car, which in that case there will be virtually no way of knowing. Thanks guys.

Coyote then? Its out past roy about a mile off highway 702.
Anyone have problems out that way?

[Smossy]

We thought coyotes or an eagle but from my believe that cat could and would have no problem fighting off a few coyotes, Hes multiple times fought off and severely injured the 3 herding dogs that live next door. Tried to kill him multiple times with no success.

An eagle though? I think hed have no chance... Im beginning to think the same about one of those spiney little creatures.

Its how I interpreted it to smossy

My fault for not explaining it right, In my head im thinking one thing, my words are put out alittle different.

[yorketransport]

I've seen and shot a lot of porcupines, but I don't kill them anymore. In fact the one in my profile picture is one of the last ones I shot. I was selling the quills and hair but I still have all of them from the last critter I shot. Just no reason to keep killing them.

They are funny animals to watch though. They just sort of shuffle around doing their own thing.

Andrew

[Sitka_Blacktail]

Dumbest animal on the planet.  We use to chase them in Alaska . They would climb a small tree to eye level and look t us. We would rub a stick on the to get quills.

But they aren't a kickball. A H3ll raising friend of mine up in Alaska was riding on the back of his brother's motorcycle. They were going at a high rate of speed, probably illegal.  They came around a corner and hit straight stretch and saw a porkie waddling down the road. Curt, the driver thought it would be funny to buzz the critter. Kenny saw what was on Curt's mind and as they flew by, he decided it would be even funnier if he kicked it.    Whether if was from their speed or Kenny's solid kick, several quills penetrated his leather boot far enough to stick into his foot. It wasn't funny any more. Took quite an effort to get Kenny's boot off as the quills were stuck in the boot and his foot. He's the only human I know who ever got stuck by a porky.

[Smossy]

Dumbest animal on the planet.  We use to chase them in Alaska . They would climb a small tree to eye level and look t us. We would rub a stick on the to get quills.

But they aren't a kickball. A H3ll raising friend of mine up in Alaska was riding on the back of his brother's motorcycle. They were going at a high rate of speed, probably illegal.  They came around a corner and hit straight stretch and saw a porkie waddling down the road. Curt, the driver thought it would be funny to buzz the critter. Kenny saw what was on Curt's mind and as they flew by, he decided it would be even funnier if he kicked it.    Whether if was from their speed or Kenny's solid kick, several quills penetrated his leather boot far enough to stick into his foot. It wasn't funny any more. Took quite an effort to get Kenny's boot off as the quills were stuck in the boot and his foot. He's the only human I know who ever got stuck by a porky.

  

[boneaddict]

I think I have had this discussion before in the last porcupine thread.   I see no need to kill them and don't.  I am not sure what mans fascination is in killing everything he sees.   Yes, if I am specifically raising trees or have a treefarm I can see why, but quail damage my garden, owls eat my birds, Oriolles hammer my fruit trees, they are just eating what they eat. 
I enjoy watching them.  They are docile and fun to watch. If your dog is dumb enough to try to eat it, can you fault the porcupine for "sticking" up for itself.

[arees]

I was once told that you should leave them alone.  If you are ever lost in the woods and hungry, they are easy to catch and kill with a stick.  It is kind of like caching food for an emergency.

That advice is probably less applicable for porkys in your back yard.

[boneaddict]

Sound logic for anything though

[quadrafire]

Next time you guys see one, do a little experiment. I did this last year and was amazed. I always had wondered why so many dogs get the quills in the nose.
Take a stick and just barely touch one of the gaurd hairs around the tail or back region. They have some kind of super sensitive reflex that smacks the tail and quills toward the rear. I did this probably a dozen times with the exact same result.
Hence, when the curious dog comes to take a sniff, it gets a nose full, then, depending on the dog, may do a full on assault. We all know what happens then.
Ouch!!!

[boneaddict]