Puppy peeing question

[Happy Gilmore]

Pup with inverted vulva will likely get a uti. Comes with territory. Inverted vulva has nothing to do with frequency of peeing and future of peeing. Inverted vulva often corrects itself after the first heat cycle.

[vandeman17]

Took the pup to the vet after work today and they did a urinanalysis and didn't find any bacteria but did find that there were white blood cells in there which lead him to think that it could be a UTI. We got some antibiotics and we will see what happens.

[Cascade_fisher]

It's a UTI, IMO. 
Maybe a helpful tip on house training- put a bell on the doorknob that the dog gets let out of to go potty.  Ring it and say your command ("hurry up" for us, for example). The dog will learn to go ring the bell when they need to go out in short order.  The puppy should be able to have control of its bladder in the 1 hour per month range and be totally house broken at 6 months.

[Mudman]

Took the pup to the vet after work today and they did a urinanalysis and didn't find any bacteria but did find that there were white blood cells in there which lead him to think that it could be a UTI. We got some antibiotics and we will see what happens.

You a good puppy Daddy n Mommy.

[Happy Gilmore]

Took the pup to the vet after work today and they did a urinanalysis and didn't find any bacteria but did find that there were white blood cells in there which lead him to think that it could be a UTI. We got some antibiotics and we will see what happens.

At that age with an inverted vulva it's a uti with the frequency of urination. Finding the right antibiotic is critical at this age. Guessing which one will work is a crap shoot. Vet should do a culture to make sure it doesn't get missed and turn into a kidney infection.

[Happy Gilmore]

Help her keep her girl parts clean too. Get baby wipes and use them on her often. First sign of uti is moisture around her vagina. It will just look wet. That needs to be wiped clean as often as you can keep up on it.

[benbo30]

It's a UTI, IMO. 
Maybe a helpful tip on house training- put a bell on the doorknob that the dog gets let out of to go potty.  Ring it and say your command ("hurry up" for us, for example). The dog will learn to go ring the bell when they need to go out in short order.  The puppy should be able to have control of its bladder in the 1 hour per month range and be totally house broken at 6 months.

  the bell on door works great that's what we did with our yellow lab he picked it up fairly quick

[quadrafire]

There is a big difference between "peeing" and "leaking"!
Inverted vulvas typically do not cause leaking, but as happy states they can lead to UTI. Puppies will fairly commonly have vaginitis which can also lead to inappropriate urination.
I think at 8 wks she is too young to be considered potty trained IMO.
If she is leaking that young, DES/Proin will not likely be the answer. (they are used for older/spayed females that develop incontinence)
There is a condition called ectopic ureter  that can cause leaking and should be evaluated for somewhere down the line (if the leaking continues).
For the time being I would crate train, get her outside like clock work and see how she is over the next 2-3 weeks.
Of course this is after she is determined to Not have a UTI

[vandeman17]

Thanks for all the input guys. We have been trying to get her outside every hour or so when we are awake in the evenings and every two hours at night. We will see if the antibiotics make any difference and go from there. Sure feels like we have a kid and not a dog... hahaha

[Happy Gilmore]

Thanks for all the input guys. We have been trying to get her outside every hour or so when we are awake in the evenings and every two hours at night. We will see if the antibiotics make any difference and go from there. Sure feels like we have a kid and not a dog... hahaha

Talked to a friend tonight who has one of my puppies. Her girl Totem(being trained as a diabetic detection dog and for hunt tests and hunting) just got diagnosed with a UTI. That makes four out of 6 in my litter. I've been trying to see if there is anything I could have done differently raising the pups and doing a ton of research on the topic. As I mentioned before, one of the other pups almost died directly as a result of a UTI infection going unchecked.

Totem had a little slight issue early on around 10 weeks. Symptoms subsided and the owner wanted to avoid giving pup antibiotic at all costs. She gave cranberry supplements and switch to a lower protein food as precautions. Totem wasn't showing the obvious symtoms of orangish/bloody urine, increased urine smell and not having "un-expected/uncommon accidents".

Far better to not ignore and assume frequent or unusual urination and get a check up. Antibiotics are cheap. When you've got a dog with an inverted vulcva and suspicious/noticable issues with urination frequency and duration it's better to error on the side of caution.

[Mudman]

Genetics.  Maybe food too much protein?  Does the momma have uti issues?  That would make sense if its genetic.

[Happy Gilmore]

Genetics.  Maybe food too much protein?  Does the momma have uti issues?  That would make sense if its genetic.

E coli isn't something which is genetic. Inverted vulvas are a trait which is passed genetically. My female had neither inverted vulva or any uti infections in her life.

[Mudman]

Wasnt refering to e-coli but physiology.  Trying to help?  Genetics a longshot. Sometimes things can just be bad luck?

[Happy Gilmore]

Wasnt refering to e-coli but physiology.  Trying to help?  Genetics a longshot. Sometimes things can just be bad luck?

No, not trying to be defensive. It's something to have in the back of your mind for sure. I've personally known the dam, sire, granddam of my bitches' line and I talk to the owners of the grand sire, grand dam, great grand dam and great grand sire of my dog on a regular basis. I've discussed this and many other traits with the prior owners. It's a unique function of the Chesapeake world. We're a close knit family unlike many other breeds. I think it is something that not only myself but, many other people involved in Chesapeakes hold as a manner of pride.

I can say without hesitation that I have bred and I am breeding some of the best Chesapeake Bay Retriever bloodlines in the United States. In the show world, Joanne Silver has produced more Champions than any single breeder. In the field trial world, Linda Harger is the top. I'm lucky enough to be able to put those two together and hope for the best. The additional bonus is that I've been lucky enough to spend a fair amount of time with them both personally and I've talked to them both face to face about the ins and outs of the bloodline. That is the goal of a person who wants to breed dogs for the betterment of the breed. Bring together the best of the best. That is my goal. Put together the proper testing and hopefully you have bettered your odds of producing something good. Then you cross your fingers twice and do it again a third time behind your back with your legs crossed!  Shat still happens and you can only do your best.

Research pedigrees, know their tendencies, admit your own dogs faults, choose to breed dogs who's faults or positives compliment each other and again, hope for the best.

ok....I'm rambling again...call me on that anytime..genetic trait that I just blame on my Dad!

[vandeman17]

Update: She has done better has far as not having the small accidents but now we are fighting a new monster. She will be outside for hours at a time, come in a pee on the floor. She also will pee when you pick her up or pretty much any time. Starting to get tired of cleaning up pee!