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Re: Ever see one of these?
« Reply #30 on: January 26, 2013, 09:23:15 AM »
I want one for the quills and the skull for a euro type mount...  have not seen one in years! 
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Re: Ever see one of these?
« Reply #31 on: January 28, 2013, 03:50:43 PM »
Best advice now?
Kill it? We just recently lost a prized pure bread bangle cat that we still have yet to find.
I wonder if thats what may have got him?

We thought coyotes or an eagle but from my believe that cat could and would have no problem fighting off a few coyotes, Hes multiple times fought off and severely injured the 3 herding dogs that live next door. Tried to kill him multiple times with no success.

An eagle though? I think hed have no chance... Im beginning to think the same about one of those spiney little creatures.

Porkys don't eat cats.
Your cat is not going to fight off multiple coyotes or a single adult coyote.
An eagle could pack off your cat, cats don't do well against raptors including owls.  If your cat is big then most raptors would ignore it.
Your neighbors dogs are wusses and overly pampered

If I had to guess, I'd give it a 50/50 shot coyotes or roadkill.


Pretty remote area, Not much vehicle traffic. Its not a normal cat, Its was a bangle.
Very very different. Bangle's still have 90% wild blood, They are BARELY dimesticated. Not like your average house cat which has about 10% wild blood.
Meaning its instincts are going to be completely different. Its a killer.

http://www.ariionkathleenbrindley.com/bengal-cat.jpg

Alittle larger then this one but grey with black spots.
If you know nothing of the breed you really don't understand how large they can be, Easily making a bobcat look like a dwarf.

I know porcupines dont eat cats lol where did that comment come from?
Porcupines kill dogs, It would have no problem dropping a cat.
And cats being as they are, Will go crawl in a hole to nurse theyre own wounds.
A dog will come home and seek out help from its owner.
I still have a hard time believing a coyote could even touch him being as his claws are like eagle talons and paws are the size of a womans hand.

But then again Im SMOSSY what do I know.
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Re: Ever see one of these?
« Reply #32 on: January 28, 2013, 04:23:54 PM »
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We thought coyotes or an eagle but from my believe that cat could and would have no problem fighting off a few coyotes, Hes multiple times fought off and severely injured the 3 herding dogs that live next door. Tried to kill him multiple times with no success.

An eagle though? I think hed have no chance... Im beginning to think the same about one of those spiney little creatures.

Its how I interpreted it to smossy

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I know porcupines dont eat cats lol where did that comment come from?
Porcupines kill dogs, It would have no problem dropping a cat.

Cats are the singlemost numero uno predator of porcupines other than man of course.   They have mastered a way of killing them, which if your cat had as much wild instinct as you claim, would probably have no problem. :dunno:     I doubt it fended off coyotes, other than climbing a tree and surviiving them.

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Re: Ever see one of these?
« Reply #33 on: January 28, 2013, 04:34:43 PM »
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We thought coyotes or an eagle but from my believe that cat could and would have no problem fighting off a few coyotes, Hes multiple times fought off and severely injured the 3 herding dogs that live next door. Tried to kill him multiple times with no success.

An eagle though? I think hed have no chance... Im beginning to think the same about one of those spiney little creatures.

Its how I interpreted it to smossy

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I know porcupines dont eat cats lol where did that comment come from?
Porcupines kill dogs, It would have no problem dropping a cat.

Cats are the singlemost numero uno predator of porcupines other than man of course.   They have mastered a way of killing them, which if your cat had as much wild instinct as you claim, would probably have no problem. :dunno:     I doubt it fended off coyotes, other than climbing a tree and surviiving them.
Thats why Im asking you guys. Thats like saying an old lady aint tough. Well what kind of old lady, is she packing? Is she healthy. Thats why I had to share what kind of animal he was. Not just an average house cat.
Not arguing just making sure everyone gets HIM. If you think it was still a coyote or whatever Im not going to believe otherwise. He was a beautiful creature regardless and he will forever be missed. I just want to know what I need to kill in the local area to make us all feel better, Unless it was a theif or car, which in that case there will be virtually no way of knowing. Thanks guys.

Coyote then? Its out past roy about a mile off highway 702.
Anyone have problems out that way?
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Re: Ever see one of these?
« Reply #34 on: January 28, 2013, 04:37:41 PM »
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We thought coyotes or an eagle but from my believe that cat could and would have no problem fighting off a few coyotes, Hes multiple times fought off and severely injured the 3 herding dogs that live next door. Tried to kill him multiple times with no success.

An eagle though? I think hed have no chance... Im beginning to think the same about one of those spiney little creatures.
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Its how I interpreted it to smossy

My fault for not explaining it right, In my head im thinking one thing, my words are put out alittle different.
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Re: Ever see one of these?
« Reply #35 on: January 28, 2013, 04:43:02 PM »
I've seen and shot a lot of porcupines, but I don't kill them anymore. In fact the one in my profile picture is one of the last ones I shot. I was selling the quills and hair but I still have all of them from the last critter I shot. Just no reason to keep killing them. :dunno:

They are funny animals to watch though. They just sort of shuffle around doing their own thing.

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Re: Ever see one of these?
« Reply #36 on: January 28, 2013, 04:51:37 PM »
Dumbest animal on the planet.  We use to chase them in Alaska . They would climb a small tree to eye level and look t us. We would rub a stick on the to get quills.

But they aren't a kickball. A H3ll raising friend of mine up in Alaska was riding on the back of his brother's motorcycle. They were going at a high rate of speed, probably illegal.  :chuckle: They came around a corner and hit straight stretch and saw a porkie waddling down the road. Curt, the driver thought it would be funny to buzz the critter. Kenny saw what was on Curt's mind and as they flew by, he decided it would be even funnier if he kicked it.  :bdid:  Whether if was from their speed or Kenny's solid kick, several quills penetrated his leather boot far enough to stick into his foot. It wasn't funny any more. Took quite an effort to get Kenny's boot off as the quills were stuck in the boot and his foot. He's the only human I know who ever got stuck by a porky.
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Re: Ever see one of these?
« Reply #37 on: January 28, 2013, 05:01:27 PM »
Dumbest animal on the planet.  We use to chase them in Alaska . They would climb a small tree to eye level and look t us. We would rub a stick on the to get quills.

But they aren't a kickball. A H3ll raising friend of mine up in Alaska was riding on the back of his brother's motorcycle. They were going at a high rate of speed, probably illegal.  :chuckle: They came around a corner and hit straight stretch and saw a porkie waddling down the road. Curt, the driver thought it would be funny to buzz the critter. Kenny saw what was on Curt's mind and as they flew by, he decided it would be even funnier if he kicked it.  :bdid:  Whether if was from their speed or Kenny's solid kick, several quills penetrated his leather boot far enough to stick into his foot. It wasn't funny any more. Took quite an effort to get Kenny's boot off as the quills were stuck in the boot and his foot. He's the only human I know who ever got stuck by a porky.

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Re: Ever see one of these?
« Reply #38 on: January 29, 2013, 04:41:18 AM »
I think I have had this discussion before in the last porcupine thread.   I see no need to kill them and don't.  I am not sure what mans fascination is in killing everything he sees.   Yes, if I am specifically raising trees or have a treefarm I can see why, but quail damage my garden, owls eat my birds, Oriolles hammer my fruit trees, they are just eating what they eat. 
I enjoy watching them.  They are docile and fun to watch. If your dog is dumb enough to try to eat it, can you fault the porcupine for "sticking" up for itself.

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Re: Ever see one of these?
« Reply #39 on: January 29, 2013, 06:58:39 AM »
I was once told that you should leave them alone.  If you are ever lost in the woods and hungry, they are easy to catch and kill with a stick.  It is kind of like caching food for an emergency.

That advice is probably less applicable for porkys in your back yard.
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Re: Ever see one of these?
« Reply #40 on: January 29, 2013, 07:00:39 AM »
Sound logic for anything though

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Re: Ever see one of these?
« Reply #41 on: January 29, 2013, 07:44:28 AM »
Next time you guys see one, do a little experiment. I did this last year and was amazed. I always had wondered why so many dogs get the quills in the nose.
Take a stick and just barely touch one of the gaurd hairs around the tail or back region. They have some kind of super sensitive reflex that smacks the tail and quills toward the rear. I did this probably a dozen times with the exact same result.
Hence, when the curious dog comes to take a sniff, it gets a nose full, then, depending on the dog, may do a full on assault. We all know what happens then.
Ouch!!!

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Re: Ever see one of these?
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