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Re: what has Ducks Unlimited done for you?
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2013, 08:23:54 PM »

To answer the original question: I think DU has done a lot for the Duck Hunter. I am not a strong supporter of DU- I am a member, they get my $35 and that is as far as it goes. I think that DU has a huge image problem. Most people seem to think that they are a HUNTING organization. They are not. What DU is, is a CONSERVATION organization. They are not in the business of making hunting spots. They are in the business of making ducks. Period. That is their focus. They secure and grow habitat so that ducks can survive. The average duck hunter thinks that they can donate to DU and then sit back and reap the rewards of some sweet well manicured duck pond that will hold a hundred thousand mallards throughout a 107 day hunting season.
Bingo :tup:
the image problem is what I am getting at. I don't think half of the every day joes supporting DU realize that they are supporting an organization that is responsible for the loss of well loved public hunting areas of which there are precious few to begin with in this part of the state for instance. DU needs to support the duck hunters that have supported them all these years.

if every potential member/donator was made aware that DU could be the reason why you lose a well loved hunting spot some day, I wonder how many would still write the check?

Maybe the only guys to write that check are the guys who want a duck to shoot at? That is my point- Get over the thought that DU is a hunting club. They are in the habitat business. Got a problem with whats happened at the Skagit- call the State up. I think their number is 1-800-328-7448 (check out the letters on your phone) They are the ones who spearheaded your loss of hunting spots.
contact skagit?  what an incredibly original and novel idea. I wish I had thought of that.

I never considered DU as a hunt club,  but they sure as hell promote themselves as one; with all the DU merch and gear they sling around leaving alot of people to believe that its about ducks and duck hunting. not a lot of bird watchers attending those banquets where duck guns are raffled off either.  :dunno: their magazine is predominantly focused on hunting with some conservation news thrown in, if they really aren't about ducking hunting then why  do they make it look like they are?
I feel there has been some misrepresentation on DU's behalf.

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Re: what has Ducks Unlimited done for you?
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2013, 08:43:01 PM »
A few years back, maybe more, I decided to continue my annual membership to DU. But only the membership. I discovered Delta Waterfowl and their philosophy of managing waterfowl. They conducted several studies that revealed the importance of predator management and the resulting benefit of that management on the production of waterfowl. It has been awhile since I read those studies, but if I recall correctly, it was something like a 85% increase in successful nests.
Obviously, you need ground for those nests, hence my support for DU. I used to see the most positive, at least in my uninformed mind, results of DU's work in the prairie states when I was hunting / living in the Dakotas and Minnesota. There used to be section after section of crp / wetlands that had signs up touting the work of DU.

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Re: what has Ducks Unlimited done for you?
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2013, 08:53:57 PM »

To answer the original question: I think DU has done a lot for the Duck Hunter. I am not a strong supporter of DU- I am a member, they get my $35 and that is as far as it goes. I think that DU has a huge image problem. Most people seem to think that they are a HUNTING organization. They are not. What DU is, is a CONSERVATION organization. They are not in the business of making hunting spots. They are in the business of making ducks. Period. That is their focus. They secure and grow habitat so that ducks can survive. The average duck hunter thinks that they can donate to DU and then sit back and reap the rewards of some sweet well manicured duck pond that will hold a hundred thousand mallards throughout a 107 day hunting season.
Bingo :tup:
the image problem is what I am getting at. I don't think half of the every day joes supporting DU realize that they are supporting an organization that is responsible for the loss of well loved public hunting areas of which there are precious few to begin with in this part of the state for instance. DU needs to support the duck hunters that have supported them all these years.

if every potential member/donator was made aware that DU could be the reason why you lose a well loved hunting spot some day, I wonder how many would still write the check?

Maybe the only guys to write that check are the guys who want a duck to shoot at? That is my point- Get over the thought that DU is a hunting club. They are in the habitat business. Got a problem with whats happened at the Skagit- call the State up. I think their number is 1-800-328-7448 (check out the letters on your phone) They are the ones who spearheaded your loss of hunting spots.
contact skagit?  what an incredibly original and novel idea. I wish I had thought of that.

I never considered DU as a hunt club,  but they sure as hell promote themselves as one; with all the DU merch and gear they sling around leaving alot of people to believe that its about ducks and duck hunting. not a lot of bird watchers attending those banquets where duck guns are raffled off either.  :dunno: their magazine is predominantly focused on hunting with some conservation news thrown in, if they really aren't about ducking hunting then why  do they make it look like they are?
I feel there has been some misrepresentation on DU's behalf.

I didn't say to contact Skagit- I said contact the State. As in Olympia- where the head of WDFW is. Well, I think we all know that their head is actually somewhere else...

And again- DU has an image problem. Most people think they are buying into a hunting club. But- they are in the duck business. A business supported mostly by duck hunters. Why should they not market and merchandise towards duck hunters and duck hunting. Who mostly wants to have more ducks? Should DU hold potlucks at the local elementary school and host bake sales in front of the library? Or should they host dinner parties and raffle off duck hunting gear to duck hunters? I don't know why I am arguing on DU's behalf- as I said before I am not a huge supporter. I do see the benefit that they provide though.
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Re: what has Ducks Unlimited done for you?
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2013, 09:02:48 PM »
Just a quick Google search turned up all these projects in Washington that DU is working on:



 
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The Nisqually Estuary Restoration
With the help of Ducks Unlimited, the Nisqually Estuary is restored after more than 100 years of man-made dikes separated this unique wetland from flourishing in its natural state. 

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Cheney Wetlands Project
Ducks Unlimited recently completed the restoration of wetlands on 238 acres owned by the Inland Northwest Land Trust in the channeled scablands region near Cheney, Washington. This parcel of land contains a large, wet meadow that was drained several decades ago to improve forage for livestock surrounded by Ponderosa pines forest. 

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Washington's Eastern Wetland Habitats
Much of Washington east of the Cascades is technically a desert, yet this region supports many important waterfowl areas. Wetlands in this region are tied to local precipitation, naturally occurring streams and those areas created within the Yakima and Columbia Basin irrigation projects. 

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Washington's Western and Coastal Wetlands
Ducks Unlimited’s Western Washington Wetlands Initiative spans a large and diverse geographic area, including coastal Washington and the entirety of Puget Sound. These areas provide habitat for a host of fish and wildlife species, including waterfowl, sensitive salmon species, shorebirds and other wetland-dependent wildlife. 

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Turnbull National Wildlife Refuge Projects
Turnbull National Wildlife Refuge is located in the heart of the channeled scablands of eastern Washington—an area so named because of the pre-historic floods that scoured the soil away down to the bedrock and left the area with an abundance of swales and depressional wetlands. The 27 square miles within the Refuge is largely rugged scabrock, pine and aspen forests and grasslands that are interspersed with numerous small lakes and wetlands. 

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Snoqualmie Wildlife Area - Cherry Creek Restoration Project
Ducks Unlimited is working with the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife to restore and enhance wetland habitat on the Cherry Valley Unit of the Snoqualmie Wildlife Area, located approximately 20 miles east of Seattle, Washington. As part of this project, DU will construct a levee, install a water control structure/fish ladder, and complete several other tasks that will significantly improve the quality of waterfowl habitat on the site. 

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South Padilla Bay Projects
Ducks Unlimited is working with a private landowner to restore significant wetland habitat on the south side of Padilla Bay, just west of Mt. Vernon, Washington. The specific project site is located on the south side of Highway 20 adjacent to the Swinomish Channel. 

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Pearsons Eddy - Snohomish River Projects
Ducks Unlimited is currently working on several projects along the Snohomish River just outside of Seattle, Washington. The Pearsons Eddy project is an ambitious effort to protect and restore over 600 acres of freshwater wetlands adjacent to this expansive urban environment. 

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Lake Terrell Wildlife Area Projects
Wetland restoration has commenced on over 600 acres of new additions to the Lake Terrell Wildlife Area in Whatcom County, Washington. The project partners include: Ducks Unlimited, Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife, Pacific Coast Joint Venture, U.S. Natural Resources Conservation Service, Interagency Committee for Outdoor Recreation, and the Lummi Nation. 

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Willapa Bay National Wildlife Refuge Projects
Willapa Bay is one of the most important staging and wintering areas for migratory birds on the West Coast. Habitat types include estuarine intertidal emergent wetlands, estuarine mudflats, freshwater emergent wetlands, forested wetlands, sand dunes, sand beaches and grasslands. These habitats have historically supported large numbers of migratory waterfowl, shorebirds, anadromous fish and many other species of fish and wildlife. 

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Skagit Wildlife Area Projects
Ducks Unlimited hosted a dedication on June 28, 2003 to celebrate the 270-acre wetland restoration project on the Skagit Wildlife Area. Greg and Carol James (owners of Topics Entertainment, a software publishing firm in Renton, WA) provided a substantial gift to DU to help with the project. 

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Yakama Indian Nation Projects
Ducks Unlimited (DU) and the Yakama Indian Nation (YN) have forged a strong partnership to restore important wetland habitats in eastern Washington. This partnership is based on the philosophy that restored or enhanced wetlands must provide for the habitat needs of all wetland wildlife including steelhead, an endangered species in eastern Washington, and culturally important species for Yakama tribal members. 

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Washington Conservation Projects
Ducks Unlimited habitat conservation projects in Washington. These projects benefit waterfowl, other wildlife and people. View sample projects, project map and more. 



http://www.ducks.org/related/washington-projects


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Re: what has Ducks Unlimited done for you?
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2013, 09:41:19 PM »
i know out in my neck of the woods where i hunt there paying farmers alot for land and charging everyone a arm and litterally leg to hunt it or buy 1 or 10 memberships to hunt it.... used to be a great farm to hunt... now i dont even know, ohwell tho eyy
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what has Ducks Unlimited done for you?
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2013, 09:45:59 PM »
I think half of them are more harm then good, as far as hunting.

 I used to hunt a great spot, ducks would feed on the bay the come to a flooded field that was surrounded by a dike. They blew the dike. Without the fresh water the birds are gone. We see very few birds there now. Nisqually used to be a great spot, now? Let's face it because of the dikes, flooded fields, grain crops, etc, there are less birds in those public areas.

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Re: what has Ducks Unlimited done for you?
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2013, 10:27:31 PM »
Just a quick Google search turned up all these projects in Washington that DU is working on:



 
Quote
The Nisqually Estuary Restoration
With the help of Ducks Unlimited, the Nisqually Estuary is restored after more than 100 years of man-made dikes separated this unique wetland from flourishing in its natural state. 

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Cheney Wetlands Project
Ducks Unlimited recently completed the restoration of wetlands on 238 acres owned by the Inland Northwest Land Trust in the channeled scablands region near Cheney, Washington. This parcel of land contains a large, wet meadow that was drained several decades ago to improve forage for livestock surrounded by Ponderosa pines forest. 

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Washington's Eastern Wetland Habitats
Much of Washington east of the Cascades is technically a desert, yet this region supports many important waterfowl areas. Wetlands in this region are tied to local precipitation, naturally occurring streams and those areas created within the Yakima and Columbia Basin irrigation projects. 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
Washington's Western and Coastal Wetlands
Ducks Unlimited’s Western Washington Wetlands Initiative spans a large and diverse geographic area, including coastal Washington and the entirety of Puget Sound. These areas provide habitat for a host of fish and wildlife species, including waterfowl, sensitive salmon species, shorebirds and other wetland-dependent wildlife. 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
Turnbull National Wildlife Refuge Projects
Turnbull National Wildlife Refuge is located in the heart of the channeled scablands of eastern Washington—an area so named because of the pre-historic floods that scoured the soil away down to the bedrock and left the area with an abundance of swales and depressional wetlands. The 27 square miles within the Refuge is largely rugged scabrock, pine and aspen forests and grasslands that are interspersed with numerous small lakes and wetlands. 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
Snoqualmie Wildlife Area - Cherry Creek Restoration Project
Ducks Unlimited is working with the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife to restore and enhance wetland habitat on the Cherry Valley Unit of the Snoqualmie Wildlife Area, located approximately 20 miles east of Seattle, Washington. As part of this project, DU will construct a levee, install a water control structure/fish ladder, and complete several other tasks that will significantly improve the quality of waterfowl habitat on the site. 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
South Padilla Bay Projects
Ducks Unlimited is working with a private landowner to restore significant wetland habitat on the south side of Padilla Bay, just west of Mt. Vernon, Washington. The specific project site is located on the south side of Highway 20 adjacent to the Swinomish Channel. 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
Pearsons Eddy - Snohomish River Projects
Ducks Unlimited is currently working on several projects along the Snohomish River just outside of Seattle, Washington. The Pearsons Eddy project is an ambitious effort to protect and restore over 600 acres of freshwater wetlands adjacent to this expansive urban environment. 

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Lake Terrell Wildlife Area Projects
Wetland restoration has commenced on over 600 acres of new additions to the Lake Terrell Wildlife Area in Whatcom County, Washington. The project partners include: Ducks Unlimited, Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife, Pacific Coast Joint Venture, U.S. Natural Resources Conservation Service, Interagency Committee for Outdoor Recreation, and the Lummi Nation. 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
Willapa Bay National Wildlife Refuge Projects
Willapa Bay is one of the most important staging and wintering areas for migratory birds on the West Coast. Habitat types include estuarine intertidal emergent wetlands, estuarine mudflats, freshwater emergent wetlands, forested wetlands, sand dunes, sand beaches and grasslands. These habitats have historically supported large numbers of migratory waterfowl, shorebirds, anadromous fish and many other species of fish and wildlife. 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
Skagit Wildlife Area Projects
Ducks Unlimited hosted a dedication on June 28, 2003 to celebrate the 270-acre wetland restoration project on the Skagit Wildlife Area. Greg and Carol James (owners of Topics Entertainment, a software publishing firm in Renton, WA) provided a substantial gift to DU to help with the project. 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
Yakama Indian Nation Projects
Ducks Unlimited (DU) and the Yakama Indian Nation (YN) have forged a strong partnership to restore important wetland habitats in eastern Washington. This partnership is based on the philosophy that restored or enhanced wetlands must provide for the habitat needs of all wetland wildlife including steelhead, an endangered species in eastern Washington, and culturally important species for Yakama tribal members. 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
Washington Conservation Projects
Ducks Unlimited habitat conservation projects in Washington. These projects benefit waterfowl, other wildlife and people. View sample projects, project map and more. 



http://www.ducks.org/related/washington-projects



I know atleast two of those listed massively decrease the amount of access hunters have to these areas, are there any listed that not only improve the wetlands but provide hunting opportunities where there were none before?

if everyone one of those spots took away access from public land hunters; is DU a cause we as hunter should support?

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Re: what has Ducks Unlimited done for you?
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2013, 11:59:42 PM »
just curious, another thread got me thinking - what has DU done for you?
 

DU gave me some opportunities with my photography business when I was just starting out several years ago.  By being willing to work with a new photographer, they used my images in ways that provided some much needed exposure, as well as some income.

DU also protects wetlands from development.  There are thousands of acres of wetland habitat that are forever "locked up" in conservation due to the efforts of DU.  These are areas that will never legally be able to be developed - many of which would have surely been drained and ruined by man's persistent efforts to encroach on the land. 

As for the habitat vs. hunting debate:
I'd much rather have lots and lots of ducks, with few opportunities to hunt them, than lots and lots of places to hunt, with very few ducks. 
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Re: what has Ducks Unlimited done for you?
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2013, 05:52:28 AM »
As for the habitat vs. hunting debate:
I'd much rather have lots and lots of ducks, with few opportunities to hunt them, than lots and lots of places to hunt, with very few ducks. 

Nobody said it had to be this starkly contrasted. There should be a mix. Some of both. From what I hear, local guys are not liking their loss of opportunity. 
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Re: what has Ducks Unlimited done for you?
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2013, 06:46:50 AM »
 :yeah: And loss of opportunity = over crowding and less enjoyable conditions on the lands that are still open.

I find it kind of ironic that both the Skagit Headquarters and the Leque site that Stilly has mentioned were both under controversy for years by environmentalists and anti-hunter groups prior to being flooded with saltwater. I think in cases like this our donations to DU are being used to help the tribes and their efforts to bring back the Chinook salmon and to cater to and please environmental groups.
If environmentalists are happy about these examples and hunters are not something is wrong.
And last time I checked ducks need fresh water to nest and be prolific not salt water :twocents:
« Last Edit: January 31, 2013, 06:56:28 AM by singleshot12 »
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Re: what has Ducks Unlimited done for you?
« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2013, 09:33:10 AM »
The Nisqually Estuary Restoration
With the help of Ducks Unlimited, the Nisqually Estuary is restored after more than 100 years of man-made dikes separated this unique wetland from flourishing in its natural state.
This restoration acctuall opened more land for hunting. And as far as I can tell the hunting has gotten better.  :twocents:
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Re: what has Ducks Unlimited done for you?
« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2013, 11:29:41 AM »
The Nisqually Estuary Restoration
With the help of Ducks Unlimited, the Nisqually Estuary is restored after more than 100 years of man-made dikes separated this unique wetland from flourishing in its natural state.
This restoration acctuall opened more land for hunting. And as far as I can tell the hunting has gotten better.  :twocents:

I don't know if what happened at nisqually is something you could call an improvement, at least not from the hunters standpoint.  before it was restored there was little to no foot access, but the fields attracted tens of thousands of ducks and geese that fed and then returned to the flats where you could hunt them. what is there to attract them now in the numbers there used to be?
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Re: what has Ducks Unlimited done for you?
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2013, 01:54:47 PM »
In the last two years I have started to learn how hunt using high dollar hunt clubs as a benefit.  No I'm not shelling out green and can have good success in public areas near them but it is a waiting game and understanding when and how they hunt.  For instance around Christmas time they don't seem to get the business which means less pressure and holds birds.  Thanksgiving time seems to be lots of clients to chase birds.  Clubs also seem to be the only areas to have food to keep the birds in the area at least and use the weather changes. 

Anyways about DU helping out clubs and that is just common sense answer.    LAND.  Who else is going to set land aside for waterfowl habitat?  Also habitat for ducks is going to win over pheasants any day of the week because ducks are native and pheasants are introduced.
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Re: what has Ducks Unlimited done for you?
« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2013, 02:13:34 PM »
  Also habitat for ducks is going to win over pheasants any day of the week because ducks are native and pheasants are introduced.
ducks vs pheasants is not the issue here, its public land access and lack there. of the TWO pheasant release sites i mentioned both are / were used more by land bound duck hunters through out the season than by pheasant hunters.

there is lots of private land that is not useable by the general public that  DU can "save" or "restore" there is a lot of public land that is out of reach by the general public without boats to save or restore, they have my blessings to mess with those all they like, but to take a small chunk of public land that is used by duck hunters, pheasant hunters, bird watchers, dog walkers, and nature lovers and make it unusable in the name of salmon habitat is neither saving or restoring and they are doing a monumental disservice to the sportsmen that support them especially in this day in age of dwindling public opportunities.
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Re: what has Ducks Unlimited done for you?
« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2013, 02:31:25 PM »
I won 2 shotguns back to back years. Thanks DU! I haven't duck hunted in a few years so I can't comment on the good or bad in land upgrades or fails.
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