Dodge to offer 1/2 ton diesel truck

[Rick]

My money is on this being a flop for Dodge.

Thats is,if it actually makes it to market.

[fillthefreezer]

Technically the main ingredient in DEF is water at 67%. Urea is 33%

*effective ingredient

[Special T]

My folks have a Mini winni based of the dodge sprinter van with the in line 5 deisle engine. Thiers is before all the emmisons BS. They get 18mpg back and forth to AZ and 14 towing thier PT cruzer, and that is with their automatic!

To may understanding there are 2 limiting factors for half ton diesels and in smaller rigs... Emmisions and the ability to import them. There have ALWAYS been lots of great engines in Europe and else where sold by the big 3, however because of union contracts they wen't allowed to become parts for cars built here because they weren't made here buy union workers. 

[jackelope]

My money is on this being a flop for Dodge.

Thats is,if it actually makes it to market.

I betcha they only offer it in the full load truck with air conditioned seats and heated steering wheels.
The engine is a Fiat-design(deep breaths now). It's a turbo'd v6. It is coming to market, no if's, 3rd quarter of 2013 as a 2014 model. No published fuel economy yet.

[Special T]

I'm not so sure i'd get really excited about a fiat motor... It will be interesting to see how that works out for dodge. I think one of the main reans why dodge sells so many Full size is because of the bullet proof cummins they offer... 

I know the motor in the sprinter is bullet proof, and is even in thier  supply chain...

[jackelope]

Bulletproof as long as you don't mind doing glow plugs that are seized in heads and egr valves all the time. We've done a few head gaskets in the 2.7 sprinter. The 3.0 is not bad but its not the same 3.0 as what's going in the truck.
And no, I'm not at all excited about anything fiat. I do Fiat service too. Ugg. That's a whole other topic.

[bearpaw]

I sure hope it is successful and that it spawns a new market that I think exists but nobody has tapped into yet. 

[Rick]

I sure hope it is successful and that it spawns a new market that I think exists but nobody has tapped into yet. 

I hope its successful as well. I just don't see it happening. 

[Special T]

Bulletproof as long as you don't mind doing glow plugs that are seized in heads and egr valves all the time. We've done a few head gaskets in the 2.7 sprinter. The 3.0 is not bad but its not the same 3.0 as what's going in the truck.
And no, I'm not at all excited about anything fiat. I do Fiat service too. Ugg. That's a whole other topic.

So they aren't as great as i think? Guess my folks got a good one then... funny thing about thier MH is it gets better milage than thier Durango by a long shot!

[jackelope]

They all have the same issues. There's a solid chance if its a 2.7 and if/when glow plugs go bad, 1 or more might be seized in the head. If the shop that fixes it has the special tools, it may not be that big a deal. If they don't, the head comes off. I turn Sprinters away here. We are not a Sprinter certified shop. The last place I worked was. They are good money if you're equipped to work on them but they are a giant Pain in the butt.

[Special T]

I will inform the folks when that happens to find a "certified dealer" Is the dealership in Bellinham a Sprinter Cert dealer?

[6x6in6]

I will inform the folks when that happens to find a "certified dealer" Is the dealership in Bellinham a Sprinter Cert dealer?

Wilson Motors in B-ham is a Sprinter dealer and certified dealer repair shop.

[jackelope]

If I recall correctly, it's specifically the glow plug for cylinder #1 that is the biggest problem. Don't hold me to that one, it's been a while.
They're a different animal.

[Heredoggydoggy]

My money is on this being a flop for Dodge.

Thats is,if it actually makes it to market.

I betcha they only offer it in the full load truck with air conditioned seats and heated steering wheels.
The engine is a Fiat-design(deep breaths now). It's a turbo'd v6. It is coming to market, no if's, 3rd quarter of 2013 as a 2014 model. No published fuel economy yet.

Not surprising that it would be a Fiat engine.  Obama gave Chrysler Corp. to Fiat....

[jackelope]

All of the new stuff is Fiat designed.