Whats in your back country packs ?

[fillthefreezer]

i enjoy reasonable criticism to help me shed stuff im struggling with

[jackelope]

[JackOfAllTrades]

Sweet, thanks!

So...you're busting Fillthefreezer's balls about his pack that is 2lbs heavier than yours and able to haul half an elephant but you don't mind packin' a six shooter at 3.5lbs?

These threads always crack me up.

Almost a touche'....
But I went to a lighter pack, carry less water, so I can afford to carry that pistola!  The pistola is usually in a shoulder rig that bears most of the weight on the hip. (as should a pack too) And is often the only firearm I have with me. I may take a rifle on the high hunts, but I've taken several deer at lower elevation with six shooter. It weighs much less than the rifle does.
 
-Steve

[JackOfAllTrades]

Good video Jackalope. I think that affirms several of the 'essential' contents we need, as perspective from another very experienced outdoorsman, without the 500' of rescue rope or a suture kit. (Although a needle and thread/dental floss are so light and usefull in other ways) 
 
I love sugar on my oatmeal in the morning, but I also know that sugar is an excelent fire starter. Bringing things in your pack that have dual purpose is always a plus.
 
-Steve

[JackOfAllTrades]

Getting off topic...
 
Personal defense from what? Critter or man?   Your best defense from man is to be smarter than your foe.  Your best defense from critter is to not invade it's territory, or make it feel threatened.
 
-Steve

[JackOfAllTrades]

Because we intentionally invade critter territory. But, I'll bet that most hunters don't carry pistola at all. More than often though, I've come back to my truck when untrustworthy fellows have been sitting on it. I don't want no trouble when I ask them to get out of the bed.
 
-Steve

[gaddy]

smossy, never heard of the duct tape trick. gonna try that out

[wildmanoutdoors]

Getting off topic...
 
Personal defense from what? Critter or man?   Your best defense from man is to be smarter than your foe.  Your best defense from critter is to not invade it's territory, or make it feel threatened.
 
-Steve

Wildlife.. If that's the case why does everyone carry pistols? Im asking a serious question..

For most Id bet its a secure feeling and a right we have.  Why not is the better question.

Your chances of getting attacked by a bear are slim to none. You wont see a Couger until its hanging off your juggler. Always save the last bullet for yourself.

I pack for many reasons, but I suspect Id brandish on a human before an animal...

[wildmanoutdoors]

Pepper spray is a great option, about the best Id say for your situation.

Hiking and Hunting are 2 different things. When hiking your supposed to be loud. That way you dont surprise the animals.

But when your hunting in stealth mode you never know what you might get to close too sneaking around.

[fillthefreezer]

Im a felon. Thats my reason. Ive been stripped of those rights so I want to know my next best option, Never know when you might walk up on something you dont want to have a close encounter with is what Im getting at. I imagine bear mace would be about it.

bear spray if youre worried about it, would work on a human as well

[slim9300]

Sweet, thanks!

So...you're busting Fillthefreezer's balls about his pack that is 2lbs heavier than yours and able to haul half an elephant but you don't mind packin' a six shooter at 3.5lbs?

These threads always crack me up.

Almost a touche'....
But I went to a lighter pack, carry less water, so I can afford to carry that pistola!  The pistola is usually in a shoulder rig that bears most of the weight on the hip. (as should a pack too) And is often the only firearm I have with me. I may take a rifle on the high hunts, but I've taken several deer at lower elevation with six shooter. It weighs much less than the rifle does.
 
-Steve

I really was trying to hold back from responding to your earlier post but I just can't do it.

I find it funny that you were very critical of someone's setup that was far superior to your own (albeit heavier). Your gear is very low quality and I wouldn't trust what you use as far as I could throw it. I would take his 8 lb. Kifaru pack with the Duplex frame over 20 of yours, because I know it will carry 100+ lbs. with the utmost comfort and that it won't fail.

My biggest suggestion to you is an attitude adjustment when critiquing others gear.
Just my .02 


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[deerslyr]

Smossy id pick up a can of bear spray. You'd be far better off with that in your hand than a hand gun. For critters and humans. Most people just cant shoot accurately when theyve got a bear chasin em down. In WA I wouldnt even worry about a bear attack for the most part. When you get in griz country like over here you can never be prepared enough.

[JackOfAllTrades]

Bear spray is a great option!  Lighter than a pistola too!
 
-Steve

[JM]

Pepper spray is a great option, about the best Id say for your situation.

Hiking and Hunting are 2 different things. When hiking your supposed to be loud. That way you dont surprise the animals.

But when your hunting in stealth mode you never know what you might get to close too sneaking around.

Yeah. Working on transitioning into the hunting lifestyle. Need to know my options you know. Dont have anyone else to teach me this stuff besides you guys and the 16 million bowhunting magazines I have. Much easier to get right to the point and ask the questions Im most curious about.

One thing that I do is avoid human contact by all means when I'm in the backcountry. for example when I set up my camp I'll set it up down wind and out of sight of the trail so that people don't smell my fire and animals don't smell me. The other thing is I avoid people on the way in and out if possible so that people don't know that I am in there and also so that I don't get loose lipped on the way out or in and slip up about what I have seen. I tend to get chatty when I haven't spoken to or seen anyone in a few days. I carry a pistol when I'm archery hunting also, people are a lot more unpredictable than animals

[JackOfAllTrades]

Stay on topic please.  Post your question in the Bear or Backcountry forum, search with Google...
 
Discussions are just that, but when the subject changes, just as you would create a new paragraph or even a new sentence when you change subject, realize when it is time to start a new thread/topic in a corresponding forum.
 
I should have said this earlier.
 
-Steve